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starting pinning?
    #9234494 - 11/12/08 10:50 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Ive been reading other tek guides, and some dont mention anything about starting pinning while others do. One i read said that i needed to put the jars at 70F, but the pf-tek on mushroomvideos.com doesnt say anything about that.

Is this a necessary step?


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234507 - 11/12/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i don't understand what you are asking

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: shrobbinhood]
    #9234525 - 11/12/08 10:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Are you talking about fruiting? Are the jars completely colonized, you dunked, rolled, and placed in the fruiting chamber? I think optimal temperatures is around 70-74 degrees? Also what really triggers pinning is FAE. Light helps but from my understanding FAE is the main cause of pinning.

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: shrobbinhood]
    #9234551 - 11/12/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

well the guide i read said that i should start pinning when the cakes are still in the jars.

sorry for not mentioning that, kinda tired so to speak.:stoned:


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234562 - 11/12/08 11:00 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think you want to start pinning while they are in the jars.

Sounds like you have a bit more research to do.

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234578 - 11/12/08 11:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Which guide are you reading? Link us up and we can tell you for sure. If you are doing PF Tek style you should take the colonized cakes out of the jar (birthing) dunking or soaking them in water 12-24 hours, dry roll in vermiculite, then put them in the fruiting chamber. Make sure the fruiting chamber has 95-99% rH for cakes (right?) and around 72-74 degrees for a temp with a 12/12 lighting cycle. That's it pretty much in a nut shell. I would not grow them in the jar, you are really limiting the growth.

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234591 - 11/12/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

well that was what one tek guide said, it seemed kinda weird but here is the link http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek#a5

it's about 3/4 down the page, but i just figured that i would ask you experienced people about it too


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234611 - 11/12/08 11:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

thats what i figured i should do, but i've just been looking around at different teks just to see what they say.

Actually i think someone from this form gave me the like cause i was asking about incubators.


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234661 - 11/12/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i mean they have pic's and everything showing them soo....


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234673 - 11/12/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Ah ok I see what they are doing. They are saying let let it start pinning inside of the jar before you birth them or put them into the fruiting chamber. If you use the jar lids with Tyvek or like a Polyfill filter you won't get much FAE. He/She uses tin foil instead of the jar lids which will allow pinning to occur inside of the jar. Hell pre-mature pinning can occur even before the cake is fully colonized. I would first off use the jar lids, secondly wait until the whole cake is completely covered in mycelium then give it an extra 2-3 days after just in case. Then follow the mushroomvideos.com PF Tek video to a T.

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234724 - 11/12/08 11:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i didn't like the way they did things in the other guide(didn't seem very clean) and i am planning on going with mushvideos tek. I just wanted to make sure that was doing everything right on my first grow.

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234784 - 11/12/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Nah 70 degrees isn't a requirement.  Room temp works perfectly.  If you can wear a t-shirt, but the fruiting temps are under 80, it's good.


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Re: starting pinning? [Re: Tylerdurden21]
    #9234786 - 11/12/08 11:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Not a problem, yeah mushroomvideos.com is the video I would use for sure. If I were you I would buy their DVD for the future as you may want to do bulk grows as well :smile:

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Re: starting pinning? [Re: dothedew69]
    #9234845 - 11/12/08 11:36 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i just might have to do that


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