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After Horse Schiesse Tek
    #923373 - 10/01/02 07:00 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

After the myc colonizes all the horse shit, I know you have 2 options, either case or let it pin right off. Is there an advantage to casing it? Whats the difference? This is probably a dumb Q. Sorry


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923394 - 10/01/02 07:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Not a dumb question at all. The casing layer will help to keep moisture in the poo and also add texture to the fruiting mushrooms. It also to some extent helps to ward off contaminiants. Typically with a casing layer you can get more flushes, but not always. bluhoney


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: bluhoney]
    #923407 - 10/01/02 07:11 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the info. What casing would you recommend?


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923501 - 10/01/02 07:42 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I like to use Jiffy Mix. It's 50/50+.

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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #923533 - 10/01/02 07:52 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well I crumpled my cake in Poo.  After Its colonized what should I do this the question I guess.  Do I need to place a layer of something over it?  I just read the 50/50 + tek, but it seems like it is like the poo tek, without the poo :smile:


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923544 - 10/01/02 07:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Nah, after the manure is colonized, you put the 50/50+ on top of it and let the mycellium colonize the casing layer.  Trust me, you will get better results if you do this.. :grin: 


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923564 - 10/01/02 08:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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but it seems like it is like the poo tek, without the poo



Think of it more like the 50/50+ Tek (a casing tek) can be used as an add on to the poo tek (a bulk subtrate tek). :grin: 


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #923578 - 10/01/02 08:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I believe I can FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe I can touch the sky...............

Oh sorry. Umm I believe you, so do I just put the mix of peat, oyster, vermculite, lime, and water to make the casing layer?





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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923620 - 10/01/02 08:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Mix everything up and then pasteurize it. I like to stick it in an oven preheated to 200*F for 30 minutes. After it has cooled off, put it on top of the poo.


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #923698 - 10/01/02 08:46 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry for asking so many questions. Where can I buy Oyster shells and lime for the casing? thx
BTW, in Roadkill's Poo tek, he didnt case it with anytihng, y not?
And doesnt casing increase the possibility of contamination?


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923703 - 10/01/02 08:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well, the easy way out is to find Jiffy Mix in the garden shop/section. Failing this, you may find oyster shells at a feed store and lime at a garden shop/section.


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #923725 - 10/01/02 08:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Try looking at Loew's or other big home improvement stores, in the same section as the vermiculite, perlite etc. I'm not sure why Roadkill didn't case in his pavlov poo tek grow log, maybe he did before putting it in the fruiting chamber. As long as the casing is made of the right things, contamination isn't too much of a problem.


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: StS]
    #924416 - 10/02/02 09:22 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

There are many who do not bother casing manure and there are many who swear by it. Somebody should have a log of cased and uncased poo. That would be an interesting link for the faq wouldn't it.


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: utopianglory]
    #925337 - 10/02/02 05:24 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Somebody should have a log of cased and uncased poo.



Cool, when are you starting? :grin: 


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #925533 - 10/02/02 06:21 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Humidity seems like a big factor in casing. I know many people who simply place their colonized poo cakes in their fruiting terrarium and have seen great results. They dont use any fancy humidifiers or etc, they just simply spray down the walls and keep the perlite moist. Im planning on doing this also, will this be fine?

Concerning the 50/50 + tek. Do I use this amount of mix and just spread it over the poo cake?

15 cups vermiculite
15 cups peat moss
4 1/2 cups crushed oyster shell
2.4 cups of hydrated lime
1 cup short of a gallon of bottled water


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #925543 - 10/02/02 06:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #925590 - 10/02/02 06:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks. Damn, I just realized (I think), Jiffy Mix is prepared mix, correct? The bottom mix is for people who cant find jiffy, forcing someone to make it themselves?

15 cups vermiculite
15 cups peat moss
4 1/2 cups crushed oyster shell
2.4 cups of hydrated lime
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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #925595 - 10/02/02 06:39 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

is there a comparable product to jiffy mix or am i going to have to get off of my lazy ass and get the ingredients to make my own?


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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: Zwieback0]
    #925620 - 10/02/02 06:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

I just realized (I think), Jiffy Mix is prepared mix, correct? The bottom mix is for people who cant find jiffy, forcing someone to make it themselves?



Correct.

Concerning other products that are similar to Jiffy Mix, I really don't know of any. That's not to say they don't exist. Look for any seed starter mixes and read the ingredients. Should be peat moss, verm, and lime.

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Re: After Horse Schiesse Tek [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #925666 - 10/02/02 06:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Geesh. *hits self on the head*

Thanks.
Would you recommend adding alittle more lime in the Jiffy Mix?


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