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alkylbenzene23
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Light intensity
#9229061 - 11/12/08 08:33 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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How intense do the lights need to be? Its my impression that they only need to be a few watts. So, I could wire up around 8 white LED's to a monotub for its lighting.
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an old rule of thumb is "if you can see inside your terrarium or bin it's enough light"
ceiling lights are fine, they only need a couple hours of light a day.
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No special lighting is needed. Just the light you already have in the room will be OK
1-2 hours of light a day is sufficient.
Since they don't need light to grow They only need light to know what direction to grow
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9229501 - 11/12/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Light in the range of 5000K-7000K colour temperature is ideal for pinning and growth.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: dead]
#9229568 - 11/12/08 10:38 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You want to stay away from incandescent lights, they fall under the worst spectrum of lighting for mushrooms. You wanna go with fluorescent lights. 12 on 12 off (Simulating night/day). I personally just turn it on while I'm awake, then off when I go to bed, simple.
I use this:
Walmart, for about $5 in the live fish/pet section.
If you have any more extensive questions about lighting, ask dead (The poster before me), he had a post with RR about lighting. I didn't pay attention much lol.
I do know that mushrooms need light. Asides from basically serving as a pinning trigger, and telling the mushrooms what direction to grow. It also supports aid with growth (Not like in plants tho). Not exactly sure the facts on how light benefits them, but I know lack of light will produce mushrooms that resemble those cultivated with high Co2 levels. (Thin stems, usually droop over, non healthy, ect)
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Re: Light intensity [Re: Boris]
#9229584 - 11/12/08 10:41 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is ideal
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Thats what I figured there was a study where literally milliseconds was enough to initiate pinning.
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You're gonna hear all sorts of people saying that you need a certain type of lighting to get the best results.
I have never used any special light. Just the light in you room will be fine.
Once you get your grow tek down you can play around with different grow parameters....different light, temps and substrates.
The best thing for beginners is to just use the light you have and give them 1-3 hours of light a day.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9230454 - 11/12/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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niteowl im gonna do a little test 1 tub with 6500k light 12/12 and in a different room i will do 1 with just the light that comes thru the window no set time just daylight hours and i will post my results thanks for all your advice
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My test has been done. When I leave the lights on at random intervals for not very long, I get shitty fruits. They tend to be skinny ass stems and such. With light on at least 4 hours a day, they look fantastic. Could be conspiracy or coincidence...I'm not too sure.
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You have to realize that most people that come here are trying to grow their first batch of shrooms.
They don't need any special lighting to get shrooms to grow.
Why cant you grasp this basic concept.
You may be able to get a slightly larger pinset with different lighting, but....bottom line....lighting is not needed to make shrooms grow.
Telling newbies that they have to have light in a certain frequency is utter fucking rubbish.
I have grown too many shrooms in my day with only the light in my closet and had great results.
Lighting is the least of a beginners worries. Temp, RH and FAE are far more important than a certain frequency of light.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9230611 - 11/12/08 01:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right, but leaving a light on for a couple hours a day is pretty easy. I wouldn't worry about what kind or intensity and such, but just give it light and you'll be happy.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: j.guit.err] 1
#9230668 - 11/12/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best results come from tweaking ALL the parameters to the growers benefit. While a 'little' bit of light will do, more and brighter light is better. In addition, high frequency light is better than low frequency light.
Furthermore, some strains will pin invitro with very little air exchange, while others require large amounts of fresh air to pin properly. If we'll provide the best conditions for growth, which means near saturation humidity, lots of fresh air, and bright light, we'll get the best results, crop after crop. RR
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Re: Light intensity [Re: j.guit.err]
#9230674 - 11/12/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9230735 - 11/12/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry, but good to see ya back Roger. Did you take a vacation ? haven't seen ya around much for about a week, till now.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9230736 - 11/12/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why not let the noobs decide for themselves, whether they want to use the best possible lighting from the start, or do they just give some random light to them?
It's not like the daylight lights are even expensive or anything. You can get CFL:s for a few bucks.
Weed grows too without any special light, but would you tell a noob weed grower to put his plants near a window to get sunlight or would you tell them to get a good HPS?
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Re: Light intensity [Re: dead]
#9230754 - 11/12/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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dead said: Weed grows too without any special light, but would you tell a noob weed grower to put his plants near a window to get sunlight or would you tell them to get a good HPS?
Trying to compare a plant to a fungus is laughable.
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Re: Light intensity [Re: niteowl]
#9230775 - 11/12/08 01:54 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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it was a metaphor, not a comparison
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Re: Light intensity [Re: Boris]
#9230816 - 11/12/08 01:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Boris said: it was a metaphor, not a comparison
Exactly.
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