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InvisibleGumby
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To all of you thinking about trying Datura:
    #922636 - 10/01/02 02:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Read this post:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Board=News&Number=921598

(sorry for cross posting, but I thought this needed to be done)


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Gumby]
    #922780 - 10/01/02 03:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The article categorized Datura stramonium (jimsonweed) as a "hallucinogenic plant" even though technically it's more of a dillusionary. This is definatley not a plant to be triffled with. Obviously these kids underestimated the power of tropane alkaloids.
But these kids weren't the first to discover this:
The term "jimsonweed" is a corruption of "Jamestown weed", in reference to the fact that in 1676 cooks mistakenly added this species to salads eaten by English soldiers at Jamestown, Virginia.~from lycaeum.org

Hey I'll have a datura salad, hold the cucumbers.
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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Suby]
    #923570 - 10/01/02 08:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I also knew that..


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: neuro]
    #924342 - 10/02/02 07:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Already tried some lots of times, being vary careful. It was a sorta like haveing a very bad cold where your vision goes blury and it becomes hard to walk with the added bonus of seeing weird creatures living in plants, talking to you friends when there not there and trying to spark up a joint just before it dissapears for the 50th time. I usualy just use the stuff with mescaline or Ayahuasca brew to help keep the stuff down, although it does alter the trip sum. But there should be extra caution with this plant I have only used up to half of leaf to feel the above affects and that was some dried stuff that was a year old. This stuff can kill or have you wandering around the streets naked talking to statues, try and explain that to the police. :grin: 


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: EvilGir]
    #924353 - 10/02/02 07:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

This stuff can kill or have you wandering around the streets naked talking to statues



Hehe, Ive actually done that


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Gumby]
    #925685 - 10/02/02 07:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Ive actually found that extremely low doses (2-3 hits) of smoked datura leaf, is not unpleasant at all and produces no hallucinations.


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Remy]
    #928984 - 10/03/02 05:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

it is rotten stuff and i would not try it ,rather use safe stuff like strihnine :grin: 


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Gumby]
    #929484 - 10/03/02 09:31 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

this shit is growing like mad in my front yard, and every time i walk by, im smacked in the face by its smell.....the temptation to try it gets greater every day... ive read the trip reports, and the fact that every one ends with.."this was horrible, never gonna do it again" scares the shit out of me, but i still want to try it....you know how it is, told not to do something so you do it anyway just because you werent supposed to....yup, thats me :grin: eventually i will try it, but at the moment i am way too intimated by it....it is obviously a very powerfull plant, and not to be taken lightly...... but theres gotta be some safe way to use this stuff..... :smirk: 


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: wrestler_az]
    #932007 - 10/04/02 03:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i actually know quite a fewpeople who ratherenjoyed it andothers who have done it repediately.
generally its people whoareexpecting an acid trip i find that end up in trainwrecks.
but yeah it can kill you. still thogh, if it tempts you THAT much try it, you want to live forever or something? afraid of a little delerium? :smile:


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Mitchnast]
    #935771 - 10/06/02 01:58 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

not necessarily "afraid".....just think this plant deserves a little respect, thats all. i want to make sure i know what whats at the bottom of the lake before i jump in, know what i mean? i will try it......its just a matter of time, and yes, she does tempt me THAT much..... i sometimes dream about her.... my sweet sweet datura :grin: what kind of doseage are we talking about here?   


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Mitchnast]
    #935998 - 10/06/02 05:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I know a guy who had a considerably disturbing experience with related plant Brugmansia - common in Australia.
He was never the same again and was eventually institutionalised.


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: wrestler_az]
    #937961 - 10/07/02 12:19 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

wrestler, i have quite the same feeling you have about datura, but with brugmansias instead... i don't think is of much use talking about dosage since this plant's content is very unpredictable...


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: felixhigh]
    #938212 - 10/07/02 01:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

so really there is no safe way to use this plant? is it really a game of rusian rulette EVERY time......or is there any way to keep it under semi-control?


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: wrestler_az]
    #938512 - 10/07/02 05:58 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

There was an article in the Entheogen Review a few years back that involved how to use it in a "safe way". The auther used vinegar extracts of different  plants from the Solanaceae family, started with only a few drops under the tongue, waiting 24-48 hours and then slowly working up. I believe  there also was some kind of recipe for this vinegar stuff. Be careful and dont take anything from me, find the article. Oh, and I think the author was some kind of Wiccan, so you maybe should take what he says with a grain of salt also  :smirk: 



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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #939806 - 10/07/02 02:05 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

thanx for the info.....but i think the fact that hes a wiccan has nothing to do with the results of his experiments.....lol but ya, they can be weird people sometimes :grin: 


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #941539 - 10/08/02 03:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

telling you people ,fuck that shit, it aint worth the risk :confused: 


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: twisted]
    #943740 - 10/08/02 08:00 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The ethnogenic use of these plants has a huge history. They have been used safely for many hundred of years, but just not by reckless people


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #948388 - 10/10/02 06:48 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

you sad it ,most people ara not shamans or holly man ,and just want to get stoned and this plant is just not the recreational drug, nor can it be treated like that,so i think that people should know what they are getting them self into.useing it responsibly wont kill you ,but it can fry you badly and leave permenant damage on ones mind and body


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: twisted]
    #948481 - 10/10/02 07:32 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

It all has to do with how levelheaded you are, and how able you are to control yourself. Anyone that goes out and uses Datura without any idea what they are getting into is bound for disaster. The key is knowing what to expect and how to enjoy it.


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Remy]
    #951149 - 10/10/02 10:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

well i know its dangerous for me to menton i can find datura in this world, but today i mentioned i knew the location of a datura nnoxia plant nearby to some new person i met at work, he got all excited and took my #
apparently he has had it before and likes it.
i told some stories about people i knew who had taken it and they all sounded like insane fairy-tales but you all KNOW they were probably true.
and i guess im going to throw a party with a combination of datura, mornng glory, shrooms,  alcohol, pot, available to my stoic artsy oddball new friends....
what a cool few days this will no doub result in being.
im gonna see if we can all get the same days for vacation and im gonna gather up as much psychadellics as possible, only 2 people i know want datura, and i plan to stay sober.
bad idea? to insane? its up to god now :smile:


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: Mitchnast]
    #952544 - 10/11/02 10:12 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

probably a good idea to stay sober, but why in the world would you want to throw a party with so many mind altering chemicals and a bunch of people who will be no doubt staying at YOUR house for a very long period of time. Won't you get sick of them?


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: neuro]
    #952712 - 10/11/02 11:04 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yah, especially after the third of fourth day in a row of either trying to wake up the comatose, or trying to stop the delerious ones from taking off their clothes & going outside to direct traffic and scare the neighbors by playing with imaginary friends...


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Re: To all of you thinking about trying Datura: [Re: gnrm23]
    #954006 - 10/12/02 02:03 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i doubt very much it will last for more than 24 hours to any degree that will require my supervision


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