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Is it possible to have a bad roll?
    #9221450 - 11/10/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a couple people tell me it is, and one girl said she was messed up mentally until she rolled again.  But, her bf broke up with her while she was rolling at a party and started making out with another chick in front of her, so I can understand how that would be pretty painful.

Has anyone here had a bad experience on E?  I'm interested in taking it because most of the time I'm pretty dead emotion-wise.  I always felt things really strongly, and over time as a survival mechanism I guess I just learned to feel nothing, and I'm kind of tired of it.  I want to work through some things that happened to me when I was young, and feel something.

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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221490 - 11/10/08 11:10 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

A good counselor? :shrug:

Or at least a good book by one.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221496 - 11/10/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, it is possible. And before someone else chimes in and says "people only get bad rolls when pills are laced with other drugs," i'll add that it was pure MDMA.

Don't let this get you worried, though. The inherent nature of the drug makes it a lot more difficult to get thrown into a bad roll than a bad trip. As long as you go into the experience with a positive state of mind, i think you should be fine.

The one time I did have a horrible experience, I think it was mostly due to the fact that I was the only person rolling and we were downtown. I felt so much love for everyone around me but I didn't feel like I could express it without looking like an idiot to those around me. I was also really dehydrated and had been walking for hours. The roll turned introspective and I felt like I didn't deserve to feel so good because of some of the mistakes I'd made in the past (which really were inconsequential, they just got blown out of proportion because of the drug).

Anyways...to sum it up...yes it's possible, but i really wouldn't worry about it.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: JT]
    #9221515 - 11/10/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Sure it's possible to have a bad roll. Actually the only truly bad experience I've had was when I ate 700mg of extremely awesome molly over the course of 3 hours.

I had never been so paranoid before in my life.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #9221549 - 11/10/08 11:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You guys think 3 pills split between me and my gf would be good?

I'm hesitant about doing it because I've been having some weird feelings about her lately.  Its really hard for me to open up and have feelings for other people, so I've been confused about what I feel for her lately.

Or do you think that I should just find a good friend to roll with?


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221572 - 11/10/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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DragonChaser said:
You guys think 3 pills split between me and my gf would be good?

I'm hesitant about doing it because I've been having some weird feelings about her lately.  Its really hard for me to open up and have feelings for other people, so I've been confused about what I feel for her lately.

Or do you think that I should just find a good friend to roll with?




i'd say do it with your gf.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: JT]
    #9221579 - 11/10/08 11:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I'd rather not have something like me breaking up with her in an E induced freak out though, and then have to deal with the rest of the experience alone and feeling like shit.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221647 - 11/10/08 11:34 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

If it's a clean roll then you'll both open up to each other in an unimaginable way. It could possibly help towards you both working through problems and becoming closer.

Start slow, maybe 3/4 to 1 pill each and then another half about 2 hours in.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221653 - 11/10/08 11:35 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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I'd rather not have something like me breaking up with her in an E induced freak out though, and then have to deal with the rest of the experience alone and feeling like shit.




Well then, make sure not to break up with her. That should alleviate your problems.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #9221685 - 11/10/08 11:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yeah. most likely you guys will become very connected during the role.

and also, E back rubs = key. can't really do that with other friends haha.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? *DELETED* [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9221702 - 11/10/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: HB]
    #9221773 - 11/10/08 11:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

QFT :thumbup:


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: HB]
    #9221807 - 11/11/08 12:03 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Thats what I was looking for, thanks HB.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9222051 - 11/11/08 12:44 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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DragonChaser said:
I want to work through some things that happened to me when I was young, and feel something.




Worth noting that before it was made illegal, E was becoming very popular in therapy sessions, and there were a myriad of instances documented in which it helped patients to move past traumatic events in their past.

Hope it helps you too!

And to the DEA: :fuckyou:


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: Deam20]
    #9222122 - 11/11/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely roll with your woman. It's the only time i like to roll anymore. Shrooms for everything else, including with the woman.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9222317 - 11/11/08 01:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Right when your peaking, watch a young girl get run over by a semi truck. You wont take ectascy for a LONG time.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9222427 - 11/11/08 02:27 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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DragonChaser said:
You guys think 3 pills split between me and my gf would be good?




That's quite a lot, I'd have half each, then another half each later on. Unless you're going to be dancing in a club for 6 hours you wouldn't need more than a whole pill.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: DragonChaser]
    #9222462 - 11/11/08 02:37 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You'd have better luck dosing a couple of hits of acid / couple of grams of mushrooms.

If it was pure mdma then there's potentially therapeutic effects, but still that doesn't compare to the realizations you'd have if you ate a few hits of acid and either chilled with your best friend or on your own (if on your own, mushrooms might be better).

I put on that whole emotionless façade.. whilst mdma does make me feel compassion and allows me to feel complete and utter cod shit, it doesn't compare to the completely honest state of being I reach on lsd.

When my girlfriend broke up with me, I dosed 3 hits of some really frickin' good liquid.. I did the whole melting -> death / rebirth thing, which was an absolutely cosmic experience.. I was refreshed and felt like I lost a lot of emotional 'baggage'.. and everything became crystal clear in my mind.

And on topic; you can have a negative experience on any drug.. Set & Setting are key for any drug experience.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: Cepheus]
    #9223103 - 11/11/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not trying to dose...  I'm not interested in doing cid really ever.  The last couple times I ate shrooms, it was 5 hours of heavy anxiety with no clarity at all, no rebirth, just hell and then weeks of anxiety attacks after each trip.

I don't think its helped me to grow or change at all since the first couple times I've done it, but after reading about the experiments they've done with MDMA and PTSD and couple's therapy and the like, I'd like to try it.
On a side note, the pills I have were from a buddy of mine who was getting thousands of them at a time.  He was moving shitloads of them, and everyone I know who ate them said that they were the best they've ever had.  So, it may not be completely pure MDMA, but consensus says they're pretty durn good.


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Re: Is it possible to have a bad roll? [Re: zouden]
    #9223129 - 11/11/08 09:46 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

DragonChaser said:
You guys think 3 pills split between me and my gf would be good?




That's quite a lot, I'd have half each, then another half each later on. Unless you're going to be dancing in a club for 6 hours you wouldn't need more than a whole pill.




i'm envious, i've only had one pill that made me satisfied after only one.  i guess florida has especially dookie pills or something


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