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Re: Can't get Rye to work as a substrate [Re: bootedboy]
    #9218823 - 11/10/08 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
My rye tek:
Measure out your organic rye berries from a health food store, one cup for each quart jar you intend to make. Place them in a large pot. Rinse the heck out of them. Fill the pot with hot tap water, shake and swirl it around and pour it out. Do this three or four times until the water you pour out is clear. You'll be able to see when you have nice clean water to pour off instead of water filled with chaff and dirt.

You want to now cover the rye berries with three times as much hot tap water as you have rye. Use half coffee and half plain water. In other words, if you have two inches of rye in the bottom of your pan, you should have six inches of water/coffee above that, for a total of 8 inches. Add approximately a 1/4 teaspoon of gypsum per cup of rye. Stir these into the water/grain well. For my large kettle with ten cups of rye and two to three gallons of water, or (coffee/water)I add a tablespoon of gypsum and mix in. Cover and leave this to sit for 6-36 hours. Don't freak out if you go 48 hours and it smells like it's fermenting. No problem.

Stir well and set the pot on the stove. Bring to a boil. Boil for ten minutes, then, WHILE BOILING, drain the contents through a very large colander. (spaghetti strainer) If you're making a large batch, you may need more than one colander. Tip the colander side to side to get the rye to drain as much of the water as you can. Then, shake the colander in order to 'toss' the grain. This will cause a lot of steam to rise from your rye. Great. Do this a time or two, then let it sit for five minutes, then repeat. When all the moisture that will drip or evaporate from your rye has already done so, load your jars. The rye should look and feel dry to the touch when you load the jars. All the moisture you need is inside the grain.

Fill jars no more than 2/3 full if they are to receive grain to grain transfers, or no more than 3/4 full if they are to be inoculated by spore syringe or agar wedge. Use a lid with a synthetic filter disk, polyfill, tyvek or similar. Cover with foil and PC the jars for at least 90 minutes at 15lbs. I use 120 minutes. When the jars are cool, they're ready to inoculate.

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Re: Can't get Rye to work as a substrate [Re: tripchip]
    #16207446 - 05/09/12 09:59 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

uuuhh, well i don't have a pressure cooker, they're expensive and not exactly readily available for rental. so what i have done is rinsed my grain then put it in a vegetable steamer until dry, i boiled my jar for an hour and put my rye in and left it to sit over night. the next morning most of the endospores left in the rye after initial introduction to boiling/steaming temperature will have germinated, so i give my rye another steam bath to get rid of all microbial life forms. i repeat this for 3-4 days and my grain is probably more sterile than if i had put it in a pressure cooker.

feel free to correct me if im wrong


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Re: Can't get Rye to work as a substrate [Re: eligablenewbie]
    #16207474 - 05/09/12 10:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if you can see the imprint of the water around your grain against the glass..your rye is much too wet and will spawn nothing but mold and if you're not lucky contaminated mushrooms


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...and he let me go saying "stupid gringos, leave this place before i change my mind"
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