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OfflineAmber_Glow
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Little dots that come out at night!?
    #920223 - 09/30/02 08:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The "static" post reminded me of something weird that I have seen all my life, let me describe it and see if anyone can explain or at least relate to this:

As long as I can remember, I have been able to see little dots as a lie in bed in the dark at night. They are black in the center, and surrounded by neon color on the outside. Usually it is pinkish on the outside, but I think I remember them being surrounded by different colors in the past. There is generally a whole sea of these dots that will flow across my line of vision, and I am never able to focus in on just one of them.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #920386 - 09/30/02 09:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, totally. I thought it was just some sort of eye-perception thingy, you know, nothing science couldn't explain, until I read 'Sex and Drugs' by R A Wilson...

Damn. Just scanned the book, but I can't find the quote, and now I'm not sure it was even in there. Regardless, I've read something about it somewhere, and though I can't even remember what the hell I read, I know what you're talking about. How's that for vague and unhelpful?


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #920389 - 09/30/02 09:37 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yep I have something of the same thing, except it's not dots but blobs of dull color. It's a normal human thing, and I think it's called "hypnogogic imagery" (spelling may be wrong there) or something like that.

I think that as we fall asleep we enter a state something close to sensory dissociation, and the feedback systems in our sensory processing begin to add a type of hallucination to what we are seeing.


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OfflineAmber_Glow
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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Discordja]
    #920409 - 09/30/02 09:42 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Ugh, what a tease! :P

Heh, well try to find a good explanation. I would love to know what these little dots, that have been my friends all my life, are all about!


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #920561 - 09/30/02 10:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

lightening bugs.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: vaporbrains]
    #920603 - 09/30/02 10:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, did you check your bedroom for fireflies?


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #920629 - 09/30/02 10:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I get visions like you describe in sunlight when I look at the sky. They move around a lot in a swirling motion. I'm not sure if what i see could be the same sort of thing or not......who knows?... :laugh:


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: vaporbrains]
    #920630 - 09/30/02 10:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: ]
    #920807 - 09/30/02 11:41 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i see those things all the time. i cant ever focus on one though if i try it moves.i noticed looking out the window of an airplane i can see all sortsa different things floating around not just balls.another thing thats pretty cool is when your looking at a light and you squint you can see lines of light coming at you.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: kebunk]
    #920884 - 09/30/02 07:12 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #920885 - 09/30/02 07:15 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I get lots of different sober "visuals"
when staring at a bright sky, I get a circular, "swirling worms" thing that swirls into the center of itself in a strange pattern...

lying in bed at night I see several different patterns, one is something akin to a simple but simultaneously complex geometric pattern placed over several spheres which sort of "fizzle" in and out of existence...
other times it's a sort of "tunnelling" into a blue and black tunnel. waves of blue, then black, just sort of passing "over" me
other times it's just complicated colorful patterns that I wouldn't know where to begin describing.
it's fucking weird though


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #921102 - 09/30/02 08:29 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

All my life i've seen these too! I describe them as being light molecules, and i can also see them in the sunlit sky if its really bright and cloudless or anything of solid colour/shading. If i let myself haze out i have visuals as well, i see eyes swirling, or sunbeams or sacred geometry patterns...


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #921757 - 10/01/02 07:15 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

risidual imiages from your cornia. the center of the ring, the black center is your pupil, the neon outside ring is just some other shit


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #921860 - 10/01/02 09:05 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i see those sometimes while sober and always while trippin. beautiful things they are.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: rasta]
    #921882 - 10/01/02 09:21 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

when i look at space that is very well lit, for example: under a microscope or at the right angle through my glasses i can see tiny translucent segmented things wiggling around and moving randomly about.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #921932 - 10/01/02 09:47 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I asked my eye guy about it and he says it has to do with neurons and synaptic "flashes" as he put it. Sometimes in the daylight I see these, what appear to be, flagellens and ameobas float across my vision and he says those are blood veins or something along those lines. I think he should have his perception checked.
But those flashes sometimes come and go. WHAT I GET are these 'windmills' when I close my eyes in the dark and open them;THATS freaky!


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Penguin]
    #922267 - 10/01/02 12:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, I read somewhere about the "floaties", that they're remnants of a vein that is present... when you're a baby or fetus or.... something? and that later you don't need it and it shrivels up and floats around in your eye? kinda creepy, but they do look kinda like bits of veins and at least they aren't floating around in front of you all the time... that would be rather distracting


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #922323 - 10/01/02 12:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I have floaters in my eye.

It will look like little dark spots that just randomly appear in your vision, which is caused by you seeing the shadow of little bits of crap floating around inside your eye juice. :smile: 


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #922335 - 10/01/02 12:43 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I get visions like you describe in sunlight when I look at the sky. They move around a lot in a swirling motion.

Yeah I see that too.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Amber_Glow]
    #922460 - 10/01/02 01:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I posted my hypotheses on this phenomenon here.

Has anybody here ever heard of the Ganzfeld Effect?

Check it out...


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Sclorch]
    #922793 - 10/01/02 03:28 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ah. the ganzfeld effect. i think this has a lot to do with what happens when you stare at a white spot on a black piece of paper until it starts to look weird and "feel" weird, then look at something white, and see a black spot. the same color and brightness, the same image... on your retinas for an extended period of time, makes you unable to distinguish colors from one another, because you can't compare one color to another, it's just the same constant image. ever focused on one particular point of something until colors begin to be distorted and the picture kinda "fizzles" ... or something? or when a dark sky just looks plain "grey" but when compared to another color such as green leaves it suddenly has a very vague purple or pink or whatever look. colors are defined by specific wavelengths, but when you don't have something to compare one color to it might as well not be a color.
it's probably the exact same thing, except your entire field of vision is the same color, so you start to hallucinate images that aren't there... like what happens in a truly pitch black room.... a windowless cabin out in the woods during a moonless night..etc


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Sclorch]
    #929025 - 10/03/02 06:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I gonna try that Ganzfeld thing. What is supposed to happen? Will I get all delirious or what?

Whatever, I'm gonna do it and I'll post what happens.


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Re: Little dots that come out at night!? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #933528 - 10/05/02 01:34 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i see dead people


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