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weiliiiiiii
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asimmons]
#9193717 - 11/06/08 06:27 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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dont we all?
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asimmons
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9193738 - 11/06/08 06:50 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I suppose so, If you found a new Psilocybe species what would you call it ?
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weiliiiiiii
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asimmons]
#9193766 - 11/06/08 07:10 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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i already have a name picked out, its one of my kids names in latin
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Subbedhunter420
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#9197778 - 11/06/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Alteredstates and I within the next several hours will present the name. It will be latin. We are cooking new agar for dishes as we speak and will be working on it all through the night.
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Latin name ?
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Brainiac]
#9198233 - 11/06/08 08:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ok.
Alteredstates and I have decided for the moment on
"Psilocybe Meridianus"
Which means "Southern" and "of the noon". Cuz its always sunny here.
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Mr. Mushrooms
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Quote:
Subbedhunter420 said: Ok.
Alteredstates and I have decided for the moment on
"Psilocybe Meridianus"
Which means "Southern" and "of the noon". Cuz its always sunny here.
Very nice. I was waiting for it. I am naming a mushroom I found too. Look for it in my new thread.
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Great work guys, I'm impressed at your dedication for working on this species.
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: wisp]
#9199932 - 11/07/08 01:24 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Fucking excellent work gentleman. You guys should be proud of yourselves. Great job 
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wow this is awesome, good find
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alteredstates
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asdf512tx]
#9206743 - 11/08/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is something that is bothering me about the original find and the second find.
the gills in the first find are going upward, but then almost sharply reverse and go downward as they get closer to the stalk. the ones in the second find are attached but not quite the same. it could just be a different phenotype, im not sure.
first find



also note the annuli from the villa (first find). they are far more distinct, appearing on almost every mushroom and they are all blueing. almost the opposite is true for the second find, the annuli are far less apparent and only a few are blueing. the blueing could simply be a difference in potency, but the difference in the amount of annuli i belive was pretty consistent.

second find
note gills, and less distinct annuli.
the gills could also just stretch out as the mushroom matures. Subbedhunter, do you have any shots of younger gills from the second find?
regardless, i think there is a lot more work to be done.
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This one is from the second patch. The annuli are quite visible and the gills are basically the same. Just slightly more mature fruits than the ones at patch 1. I believe it is merely the phenotype that makes it more distinct.
I will work on some microscopy today or tomorrow to find differences in the cytsidia. I think that will help a lot.
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On the first picture, the gills are attached to the stipe.
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On the second picture, the gills are NOT attached to the stipe. [image]http:// [/image]
Start a culture on the same agar plate and watch if they merge or not.
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: nightflyer]
#9210263 - 11/09/08 02:23 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think they are the same species, quite often as the fruit body matures the attached gills can separate from the stipe giving them the appearance of being seceding or not attached, I have seen this many times with quite a few different Psilocybe species! This also highlights the importance of examining fungi at all stages of growth when it comes to identification! Great find guys, it may not be the only woodloving Psilocybe species that forms sclerotia, I will keep you informed! inski..
Edited by inski (11/09/08 02:29 AM)
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: inski]
#9214784 - 11/09/08 09:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Like I said previously, Pic #1 is of a very young specimen growing about 20 miles inland and the second is of mature specimens a couple hundred feet from the ocean.
Every characteristic is the same. I have seen the traits match up except the attached and unattached gills which seems to be common with psilocybes according to Inski within certain species. I hope we can now bury the idea that these are two different species and agree that they are one and the same.
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asimmons]
#9216469 - 11/10/08 05:46 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Awesome find!
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: N2loma]
#9216596 - 11/10/08 07:17 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Congratulations to you and alteredstates!
Looking forward to seeing more documentation on the species.
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weiliiiiiii
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Subbedhunter420 said: Like I said previously, Pic #1 is of a very young specimen growing about 20 miles inland and the second is of mature specimens a couple hundred feet from the ocean.
Every characteristic is the same. I have seen the traits match up except the attached and unattached gills which seems to be common with psilocybes according to Inski within certain species. I hope we can now bury the idea that these are two different species and agree that they are one and the same.
I agree with you, i think they are the same.
weilii take on many forms, so many that within one patch there will be 3-5 different forms.
with the weilii it was all about the substrate, grass patches produce fruits that are almost all identical but woodland/pine straw patches produce fruits that vary incredibly.
maybe thats whats going on with your find, you said one was closer to the ocean than the other so maybe theres something to that.
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Ok.
Alteredstates and I have decided for the moment on
"Psilocybe Meridianus"
Which means "Southern" and "of the noon". Cuz its always sunny here.
FYI,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9663079/an/0/page/0
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