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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91956 - 01/20/00 09:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds great man, good job. I'd really like to try the manure but I have room mates and they'd be mega pissed at the really stinks part! I wonder what other way I could accomplish that...

I'm sure you will get big yields and large flushes, after all, cubies are a dung loving species.



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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91958 - 01/20/00 10:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

my first ecus i grew on a ready-to-use cowdung...heatdried...20 l for 5 bucks....
i just added water, mixed throu and inoculated from rye-grain-spawn....this is 10 years ago...and this product is not produced anymore....it was perfect...but we found a new one called "CELAFLOR NATUREN" a heatcomposted woodsubstrate were u can grow all cubes on...without contam

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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91959 - 01/20/00 11:37 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I've tried basicly that process, with about 50/50 manure/vermiculite, baked for about 2 hours at 350. When I added spawn I only had about 5 cakes to use for an area of about 3 square feet at 3 inches deep. It grew for a little bit, but then it stopped, not sure why, could have been lack of moisture.

I did not have good ventilation on the container, and ended up with a bit of fuzzy crap growing on the manure, it looked kind of like cobweb mold, but I can't be sure, since I've never really seen cobweb :smile:

I'm looking forward to hearing your results, be sure to post pictures.

With that much substrate it ought to keep flushing for months.



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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91960 - 01/22/00 10:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Update regarding manure, QUICKLY COLONIZING. The air holes are making all the difference, I threw the extra that would fit in the bin into a trash bag and tied the top, very little growth in there. On the other hand, the manure in the bin is colonizing quickly...should be completely colonized in a week, then it will get a 2" casing layer, which should take another week or so, and then fruiting! I can't wait to see what B+ will look like on manure. Maybe we'll see some 1 lb(wet weight) specimens! Any thoughts from others who have grown on big blocks on manure?

Thanx guyz!



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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91961 - 01/22/00 11:36 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I just started working with manure again.
Here is what I'm experimenting with.

What I've been doing, is going down to a local field with straw fed horses. I take a 5 gallon bucket with lid (home depot $5) and shovel. I look for the old dried up manure. Bring it home in the bucket. Dump in a couple gallons of bottled drinking water. Put the lid on so no bugs take up realestate in there. Wait about 8 hours. Take my shovel and chop it up in the bucket real good.
Then using a 3 gallon or larger cooking pot, I bring the water to between 160-180f.
I load the manure into an old or cheap pillow case and tie it in a knot. I pasturize it in the water for about 45 -60 minutes. You really have to keep an eye on the water temp, use a cooking thermometer, the water should not be boiling or its way over 180F.
When done cooking, I let it cool for a while. Then I take it outside and let it hang, in the shade for day to drain.
Bring it back inside to work with. Put the pillow case in a tupperward container next to my work area. I have my colonized jars ready to birth.
I take gallon ziplock freezer bags, punch holes in about 6 places in the bag. Then I scoop the dung out, squeeze, so any excess water comes out.
The perfect moisture level is where its barely dripping when you squeeze.
I slowly break up and add this in my ziplock bag. I fill them about 1/2 full. I take one fully colonized 1/2 pint cake per gallon bag. I break up the substrate (spawn) very gently into dime size or smaller piecies, and mix it real good wit the dung.
Close the zipper. I do about 3 of these at a time, and put them in a filter patch bag together and seal the spawn filter patch bag.

So far everything is going great and I should be casing in a few days. After about day 3 or 4 I shake the bags (through the filter patch bag) up real good to get the colonized parts broken up a little bit and move into uncolonized parts. Looks like colonization of these bags is roughly 7-10 days.
I'll keep you guys updated how its going.

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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91962 - 01/22/00 11:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. The manure does not stink at all believe it or not. Its old, there isn't much smell to it at all. Kind of just smells like wet straw if anything.
Just be sure you use old dried up manure.

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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91963 - 01/23/00 09:56 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Back to the DRAWING BOARD! OMG this is totally fucked up! I mean the freaking manure said composted on it, and what the fuck did it do, but composted my cakes, it heated up and digested the cakes on the inside, the outside was colonizing, but the inside was blank, not a trace of mycelium, and it was thoroughly innoculateD! Argh, back to the drawing board on this one. I'm gonna attempt to compost this existing manure I've prepared to a point where its usable.. who knows.




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Re: B+/Manure Experiment
    #91964 - 01/23/00 10:40 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Ripper,
Sorry to hear. Suggest a sitting time to assure full composting. Will be watching for further posts, though. Ya got the right idea!
BiO,
On wood composted substrate mentioned. Any more info on wood based mediums would be appreciated, maybe new thread? Have been long time fan of Cultivator, but would like more current actual experience. Have been leaning towards dung methods being discussed, but still have some interest in wood substrates. Especially, for certain species. Also, thanks for other recent info as of late. You got some novell methods going on!
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