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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: German Kahuna]
    #9178121 - 11/03/08 03:14 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

You don't need any qualifications to name a species, however, you will need someone to do some ITS sequencing at the least.  But I mean, you better have a convincing proposal for this new species.  You have to have to site the evidence, and also describe all the identifying features. 

Usually I see amateurs decide to work with a professional in the field to help publish the paper.  Both of your names would be published.  For one, professional mycologists jobs revolve around researching and publishing your findings in a peer reviewed, scientific journal, so they're used to doing it all the time.  Furthermore, Scientific journals are more likely to consider your submission if the name of a well known scientist accompanies the paper.

Then the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature (ICBN) either accepts or rejects the proposal of the new species name.  So be sure that your evidence and article meets the criteria the codes.

I've been away from the Bruns Lab for a couple months, but plan to return as soon as I have the time and money to commute to Berkeley twice a week.  I think by January I may be back, so if you haven't had this Psilocybe sequenced by then, I can do it if you want.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
    #9178551 - 11/03/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I would love for you to sequence this mushroom curecat, I dont remember if I have sent you a sample or not but if you need some please message me.

If anyone is willing and capable of helping me finalize and get this species published please message me.

These are not cyans, nor the suspected ps. subaeruginascens.
There are several distinguishing characteristics of this mushrooms.

-Long season (Late April-October
-Warm weather species
-Prefers conifers such as douglas fir. But also enjoys eucalyptus and hay.
-Forms Scleriota in agar. (Only woodloving species I know of that does...)
-Is moderate-high in potency. Comparative to cubensis or  stronger.
-Has an annulus on the stem, veils in early stages of primordia
-Very light cinnamon color. rarely dark even during pinning.
-Blues down to nearly the hyphal level.
-The spore color of ps subaeruginascens is much darker of a purple than this species. (which is a light purple)



http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/gerilori/PsilocybeSanFranciscoCA.jpg
This is a link to Auweia's San Francisco Ps. Subaeruginascens growing on agar.

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/gerilori/PsilocybeVenturaCountyCA.jpg
This is the image of The southern california Psilocybe on agar.

What are all of your views everyone?


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9178569 - 11/03/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

congrats subbed, its always nice to see people on here discover new species.


Im proud of ya, keep representing this site well.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9178635 - 11/03/08 05:02 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

The mycelium is quite wispy, like Ps. tampanensis mycelium.

Ya gonna come back up here this Fall, Subbed?  You should come around the Fungus Fair, on Sat & Sun, Dec 6 & 7.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9178683 - 11/03/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Hmmmm, dunno.  Some microscopy images of the cystidia would help.  It may be just a species outside of its normal range.  Did I get a sample of this and just not get around to working it up?  Seems like I have a Subbedhunter420 "P. subaeruginascens" sample in my to do pile.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Workman]
    #9178737 - 11/03/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

My question is:

Do they make you trip balls?


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: mathewww]
    #9179652 - 11/03/08 08:21 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

if they bruise bright blue like that, drop a purple spore print, and resemble the characteristics of the cyanescens variations, its probably safe to say they do make you "trip balls"

then again, ide like to see these have some actual lab work done on them to find out the percentages of each constituent.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CptnGarden]
    #9180000 - 11/03/08 09:17 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

It is awesome to know a member of our community has discovered a new family member of the psilocybin genera!


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Mr Cyan]
    #9180848 - 11/04/08 12:19 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Well, they are quite strong. I have yet to take a whole 8th but one gram does me good for 5 hours. Alteredstates took an 8th and was so scared of the coming anxiety and the force of the trip that he made himself vomit in my backyard.

Workman- I will try my best to perform some microscopy on them. My microscope should work.

Curecat- Of course I would love to come back up this winter! I plan on it for that weekend. I will try and see if Alteredstates can go also, he really is intent on it also after hearing my crazy time.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9181907 - 11/04/08 10:18 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

This is an awesome thread, it's great to see positive work coming from this community :smile:

especially in such a wonderfull genus


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: haymaker]
    #9182140 - 11/04/08 11:22 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

those are some meaty looking mushrooms.
do you have more than one patch or just that one?
and these are in southern california!?
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Quankus]
    #9183236 - 11/04/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yes, Southern California. Three separate patches have been found. They were all within 20 miles of one another.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #9184011 - 11/04/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

New species found in SC? :omgawesome:

I'm excited to see what these are going to be called!


Good shit Subbed, good shit :super:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: hoopershroomer]
    #9184298 - 11/04/08 06:50 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

overjoyed and giddy! makes me wonder how many psilocybes could be lurking around in any state, wether it is a new sp. or an out of range sp., both possibilities are good news. right on Subbedhunter420. sorry about Alteredstates, i hope he still had a good expeirience after vomiting. it's been a while since i've eaten an eighth, usually just take a gram and a half, but need to go further soon :strokebeard:  :yinyang2:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: sprout70]
    #9184329 - 11/04/08 06:55 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Brainiac]
    #9187375 - 11/05/08 05:59 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Congrats Subbedhunter420, great finding! :thumbup:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: Mikael]
    #9187511 - 11/05/08 07:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Nice work Subbedhunter420 :thumbup:  Keep on it :mushroom2: and then some of this :popular:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: shroomgatherer]
    #9187718 - 11/05/08 08:54 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, thats amazing that you found a new species :smile:


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asimmons]
    #9193077 - 11/06/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, thats amazing that you found a new species :smile:



What is amazing is finding a potent wood-loving Psilocybe in Southern California!

Finding new species is really common in mycology.  It happens all the time.  Often times new species are looked over or dismissed as a similar, better known species.


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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
    #9193673 - 11/06/08 05:58 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, really, I guess my n00bness shows through, ha I want to find a new species


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