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nightsearcher
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I.D request azures??
#6223054 - 10/29/06 07:51 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK so there are three three types of mushrooms here possibly 2 are the same the third i do not belive is an azure but am still curious as to what it is help would be greatly appreciated. NO.1
Location: Ireland, Mixed woodland on leaf and mulch floor
Dispersal: Found Scattered in small groups
Apearance: small nipple on top of each, gills attached and then unattached consecutively,tan gills, brown fadding to tan cap,white stalk
PIctures of No.1 a.
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Mushroom Two Location: Ireland Mixed woodland conifer mulch
Dispersal: One Large Group
Apperance: similar to no.1 but with thicker cap and stem and all gills attached and brown, brown cap also, each has a nipple aswell, white stalk
Pictures of Mushroom 2. a.
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Mushroom No.3 Just curious about this one
Location: Same as No.2
Dispersal: Small Scattered groups
Appearance: Yellow/tan cap,yellow stalk,nipple on cap rusty/brown gills
Picture of No.3
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LouiseLouise
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Spore prints?
Nothing there strikes me as active.
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ClammyJoe
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Definitely not azurescens, Or any thing active for that matter
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hEAtOniKgun
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: ClammyJoe]
#6223125 - 10/29/06 08:38 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agreed. Azures have a white stem and look very different from that.
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nightsearcher
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: hEAtOniKgun]
#6223151 - 10/29/06 08:50 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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i guess i wasnt lucky this time its just they looked exactly like this picture of uk azures i saw on google images
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PsilocybinMind
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Umm the ones you picked don't look anything like the picture you said they look exactly like.
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Corporal Kielbasa
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nope they arn't active or they are not any species i am familiar with. Don't eat them!
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xmush
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Look like they could be Inocybes. Poison.
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Amatoxin
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For a start Psilocybe azurescens don't grow in the UK unless you've germinated spores on agar yourself and inoculated hard wood chips. What you have there appear to be Inocybe or Cortinarius and you don't want to be playing around with those.
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psilocin85
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nightsearcher said: i guess i wasnt lucky this time its just they looked exactly like this picture of uk azures i saw on google images
Am i am so annoyed now after seeing this picture,,, many of a mushroom i have seen just like this and many a mushroom i have consumed just like this.. normally they are in grass wich normally near woodchip beds that have powerfull strains of Cyans...
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: psilocin85]
#9178231 - 11/03/08 03:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mathewww
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I'm positive and have read many times that Azures only grow on the Pacific Northwest Coast of the United States, particularly where the Columbia river empties into the Pacific Ocean.
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CptnGarden
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: mathewww]
#9179634 - 11/03/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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inocybes have already been mentioned, also maybe a cortinarius in there.
nothing active, all of those would probably make u sick.
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psilocin85
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: mathewww]
#9181032 - 11/04/08 02:15 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mathewww said: I'm positive and have read many times that Azures only grow on the Pacific Northwest Coast of the United States, particularly where the Columbia river empties into the Pacific Ocean.
They can be grown anywhere that the climate is right, they have been found growing wild in Europe.
Psilocybe Cyanescens is a native to the pacific northwest but is now found growing wild across european forests... but it is still even more common in woodchip beds and woodchip mulch! They arrived into europe originally in woodchips, it is not beyond doubt that Azures could do the same and eventually start to grow on natural supplies rather then human supplied wood/ plant debry.
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: psilocin85]
#9181035 - 11/04/08 02:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have Inocybe, Cortinarius, and another Inocybe.
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CptnGarden
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: psilocin85]
#9181702 - 11/04/08 09:27 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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psilocin85 said: They can be grown anywhere that the climate is right, they have been found growing wild in Europe.
do u have any literature on this? i didnt know azures were found there, ive only heard of them in/around astoria, hence their nickname "the astorian mushroom"
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: CptnGarden]
#9181913 - 11/04/08 10:20 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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canid
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: CptnGarden]
#9183132 - 11/04/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, he said can be grown. it is an easy species to cultivate outdoors in many areas, if also lengthy.
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: canid]
#9186469 - 11/05/08 12:03 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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canid said: yeah, he said can be grown. it is an easy species to cultivate outdoors in many areas, if also lengthy.
growing any wood loving mushroom is lengthly as you have to wait for the wood to deteriorate enough! This process depending on where you live could take 3 or maybe even 4 years.
Psilocybe Cyanescens originated in the Pacific Northwest but over the many years of wood being exported from that region into Europe the spores have being doing to so. Most of the imported wood from that way was used in play areas, path ways, mulching, etc etc. Over time the spores spread to local wooded areas and now it grows wild on local wood and plant material across Europe.. admittedly these areas are still very localized (i think) in England but from what i have seen i think it is far more widespread i Germany. Now azures come from the same location as Cyans and grow in similar conditions though these apparently prefer deciduous woodland - some thing Europe has plenty of.
Edited by psilocin85 (11/05/08 12:05 AM)
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canid
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Re: I.D request azures?? [Re: psilocin85]
#9186507 - 11/05/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm not aware that the question of P. cyanescen's origin has been sufficiently settled, and i am aware of no naturalization of P. azurescens outside the Columbia river estuary system and nearby coastal duneland.
the deliberate establishment of P. cyanescens/azurescens beds generally can be done in a single season. it can be done with relatively fresh, but leached hardwoods with no need for lengthy decomposition and within a year of weathering in the less resinous conifers such as fir, as evidenced by the many accidental patched our northwester suburbs are full of.
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