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Subbedhunter420
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New Psilocybe species (Psilocybe Meridianus)
#9175403 - 11/02/08 11:41 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I wanted to tell you all that the species of psilocybe that Alteredstates and I have found in the last year that was presumed to be psilocybe subaeruginascens, is not ps. subaeruginascens. It seems that it grows scleriota on agar mediums and also prefers conifers.
We will present a new name for the species by thursday, Nov 6.
Edited by Subbedhunter420 (11/07/08 11:18 AM)
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psilocin85
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Quote:
Subbedhunter420 said:
These look similiar to Cyans... is it possible that these might have made there way to europe??
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koraks
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Sterile semilanceatas. They occur, although I've never had the pleasure of finding them. Here are some excellent pics of sterile liberty caps. This one says it all:
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: koraks]
#9177849 - 11/03/08 02:15 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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koraks said: Sterile semilanceatas. They occur, although I've never had the pleasure of finding them. Here are some excellent pics of sterile liberty caps. This one says it all:
Yep, that's them! Cool!  But the stems were not this yellowish. They were of the same almost colorless transparent appearance as the caps.
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Edited by German Kahuna (11/03/08 02:24 PM)
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Subbedhunter420
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: CureCat]
#9178551 - 11/03/08 04:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would love for you to sequence this mushroom curecat, I dont remember if I have sent you a sample or not but if you need some please message me.
If anyone is willing and capable of helping me finalize and get this species published please message me.
These are not cyans, nor the suspected ps. subaeruginascens.
There are several distinguishing characteristics of this mushrooms.
-Long season (Late April-October -Warm weather species -Prefers conifers such as douglas fir. But also enjoys eucalyptus and hay. -Forms Scleriota in agar. (Only woodloving species I know of that does...) -Is moderate-high in potency. Comparative to cubensis or stronger. -Has an annulus on the stem, veils in early stages of primordia -Very light cinnamon color. rarely dark even during pinning. -Blues down to nearly the hyphal level. -The spore color of ps subaeruginascens is much darker of a purple than this species. (which is a light purple)

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/gerilori/PsilocybeSanFranciscoCA.jpg This is a link to Auweia's San Francisco Ps. Subaeruginascens growing on agar.
http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w337/gerilori/PsilocybeVenturaCountyCA.jpg This is the image of The southern california Psilocybe on agar.
What are all of your views everyone?
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alteredstates
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Re: New Psilocybe species [Re: asdf512tx]
#9206743 - 11/08/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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there is something that is bothering me about the original find and the second find.
the gills in the first find are going upward, but then almost sharply reverse and go downward as they get closer to the stalk. the ones in the second find are attached but not quite the same. it could just be a different phenotype, im not sure.
first find



also note the annuli from the villa (first find). they are far more distinct, appearing on almost every mushroom and they are all blueing. almost the opposite is true for the second find, the annuli are far less apparent and only a few are blueing. the blueing could simply be a difference in potency, but the difference in the amount of annuli i belive was pretty consistent.

second find
note gills, and less distinct annuli.
the gills could also just stretch out as the mushroom matures. Subbedhunter, do you have any shots of younger gills from the second find?
regardless, i think there is a lot more work to be done.
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This one is from the second patch. The annuli are quite visible and the gills are basically the same. Just slightly more mature fruits than the ones at patch 1. I believe it is merely the phenotype that makes it more distinct.
I will work on some microscopy today or tomorrow to find differences in the cytsidia. I think that will help a lot.
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On the first picture, the gills are attached to the stipe.
[image]http:// [/image]
On the second picture, the gills are NOT attached to the stipe. [image]http:// [/image]
Start a culture on the same agar plate and watch if they merge or not.
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alteredstates
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Description for new Psilocybe species [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#9679618 - 01/25/09 09:32 PM (15 years, 5 days ago) |
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Description of wood-loving Southern California Psilocybe species Probably section Stuntzae
Cap -2-8cm broad -Mostly convex, often becoming broadly umbonate or uplifted with age. Sometimes wavy. Rarely plane. -Smooth surface. May be somewhat viscid and translucent when wet. -Color varies: typically dark when young (brownish), but may also be light (dull yellow/orange/brown). With age the color fades and is typically a light yellowish brown(?) (sometimes almost to a cream), often retaining a darker brownish margin. pallid. -Sometimes staining blue or blue-green.
Gills -Adnate. -Light, pallid, becoming yellow-brownish. -Close to crowded.
Stalk -3-6cm long -4-8mm thick -Most often equal or tapering upward, sometimes tapering down. -White to very light brown. -Often staining blue. -Annulus present, often completely blue.
Spores -Light purple.
On agar -Blues almost down to the hyphal level. -Forms scleriota.
Habitat -Southern California- So far it has been found in Ventura and Los Angeles Counties. -This is a warm weather species. I have found it fruiting from 70 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit. -It likes a wide range of wood (alder, conifer, eucalyptus, and several other types I have given it). -Fruits in wood chip beds, mostly near/under plant or bush. -It is Gregarious, often densely clustered. -Its season is fairly long, from 4 to 6 months (April- late September/early October).
Note color

Note beauty 

note lighter color

note viscidity

note annulus

note abnormally light pins

There has been no proper microscopy on this species yet. The following are some pictures from Alan Rockefeller. Alan, if you have measurements on the spores, Cheilocystidia, and Pleurocystidia, I would definitely like to know.
Spores

Cheilocystidia

Pleurocystidia

Please let me know what else I should put into the description.
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Re: Description for new Psilocybe species [Re: Strophariaceae]
#10202064 - 04/20/09 02:44 PM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi Stroph
Last year I started cultures of both species:
Psilocybe subaeruginascens (from San Francisco, auweia collection) [image]http:// [/image]
Psilocybe "meridianus" from Ventura County, southern California (subbedhunter collection) [image]http:// [/image]
In my opinion two different species.
Edited by nightflyer (04/21/09 09:07 AM)
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Re: Description for new Psilocybe species [Re: nightflyer]
#10205366 - 04/21/09 02:54 AM (14 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well... Here is part of a Mycology Lab. Most of the equipment in the images is used for genetic sequencing.
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