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InvisiblelIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl
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One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders
    #9172189 - 11/02/08 12:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

All the Canadian leaders have to be fluently bilingual. Even Preston Manning (Reform) could speak a little French.

There is no formal rule, it is an unwritten one.

That there eliminates a large number of politicians too stupid to learn a second language, since the vast majority of Canadians are brought up either French or English, not bilingual.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172256 - 11/02/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So because some one doesn't know a second language, it means they are stupid?

Did you ever think of the fact some people just don't want to or have the need to learn a second language? In high school I took 2 years of Spanish, learned a little, but it wasn't because I wanted to, it was required to graduate high school. I don't ever plan on learning a second language and I promise it's not because I'm too stupid. I just don't want to. :ohwell:


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9172314 - 11/02/08 12:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think he was saying it was an incredible measure of intelligence, more that it may be important for a world leader to speak different languages and that the bilingual Canadian politicians may be better off in this respect.


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9172331 - 11/02/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I think he is just saying that there are those who are too dumb to learn 2 languages, not that those who dont are dumber.


Honestly, if you are physically incapable of learning at least some of a second language you probably should worry about what other things you are physically incapable of, including how well you can lead.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172511 - 11/02/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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adjust said:

One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders

All the Canadian leaders have to be fluently bilingual.









Also the "Canadian leaders have" to support clubbing to death millions of baby seals!



:excitedseal:


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: pinkfloydms]
    #9172588 - 11/02/08 01:56 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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pinkfloydms said:
So because some one doesn't know a second language, it means they are stupid?




The fact that you must be bilingual excludes certain people from leadership of a political party in Canada.

There is, of course, a range of reasons a person might be monolingual, not just stupidity, but stupidity is definitely one of them. This isn't that hard to understand. If you're too dumb to learn a second language you won't be put in charge.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9172618 - 11/02/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Also the "Canadian leaders have" to support clubbing to death millions of baby seals!



:excitedseal:




Well yea but every country has unpopular lobby groups that are involved in widely unpopular killing but have to be supported by politicians to get elected. I mean just look at the Israel lobby in the US.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172789 - 11/02/08 02:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

adjust said:
All the Canadian leaders have to be fluently bilingual. Even Preston Manning (Reform) could speak a little French.

There is no formal rule, it is an unwritten one.

That there eliminates a large number of politicians too stupid to learn a second language, since the vast majority of Canadians are brought up either French or English, not bilingual.




Speaking a "little French" is vastly different from being fluent.  If you were fluent in English you would know this.  Second, what if their second language was Urdu?  Or Tagalog?  Or Swahili?  Or, to cite a dead language, Latin?  Would that make them educated in irrelevant shit enough to suit you?


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: ScavengerType]
    #9172868 - 11/02/08 02:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

lonestar2004 said:



Also the "Canadian leaders have" to support clubbing to death millions of baby seals!



:excitedseal:




Well yea but every country has unpopular lobby groups that are involved in widely unpopular killing but have to be supported by politicians to get elected. I mean just look at the Israel lobby in the US.




You're comparing clubbing precious, innocent, helpless baby seals to killing terrorists?


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9172873 - 11/02/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Its not that he likes jihadists, he just really hates seals.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172903 - 11/02/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

This whole business of having 2 official languages is exactly why Quebec should leave the confederation.  A commissioned officer in the Canadian Armed forces can't rise to a rank higher than major.  I have a family member who would be a colonel now, were it not for this silly Francophone nonsense.


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: DieCommie]
    #9172905 - 11/02/08 03:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: DieCommie]
    #9172911 - 11/02/08 03:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

not everybody or even the majority of people killed by Israel forces are jihadies and a vast majority of those killed by their policies only are antagonistic towards the Jewish population and perhaps charged to support radicalism because of those policies that kill and evict innocent Palestinians.

I also have no strong feelings one way or the other for seals. I personally think they are funny looking and don't see why people make a big deal about how cute they are, but I'm also an environmentalist and if the seal population was radically curbed by clubbing I would be more opposed to it.


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9172921 - 11/02/08 03:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Speaking a "little French" is vastly different from being fluent.  If you were fluent in English you would know this.  Second, what if their second language was Urdu?  Or Tagalog?  Or Swahili?  Or, to cite a dead language, Latin?  Would that make them educated in irrelevant shit enough to suit you?




Reform never really had a shot at anything. The fact that Manning could speak any French, let alone participate in a debate, is pretty amazing if you ask me. BTW, Manning is no longer leader of Reform because that party no longer exists. I was just citing that example because Reform was such an extreme western Canada oriented party that played an opposite but equal role in parliament that the Parti Quebecois does today.

You are making this out to be something it isn't. All I'm saying is this policy acts as a barrier, ok? It keeps people who are too stupid to learn a second language from being in change.

Your argument about Urdu is also absurd, but you know that. You really are naive if you think the US or Canada would elect someone so far from the white male stereotype (such an ethnic African or Pakistani) to be the leader of a major political party. That would be political suicide.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172941 - 11/02/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not the abysmal idiot who put forth the notion that a minor talent or skill was somehow indicative of a better education or intellect relevant to running a country.


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172978 - 11/02/08 03:23 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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You are making this out to be something it isn't.





:rofl:


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9172981 - 11/02/08 03:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not the abysmal idiot who put forth the notion that a minor talent or skill was somehow indicative of a better education or intellect relevant to running a country.



Where did I say that? And are you saying that intelligence isn't relevant to running a country?

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172989 - 11/02/08 03:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I think hes saying how many languages you speak isnt relevant to intelligence.

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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #9172993 - 11/02/08 03:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Intelligence has nothing to do with speaking 2 languages.

We had a mexican at our school that could speak both fluent english and spanish, but was a total fucking moron.


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Re: One thing that Canada has over the US in terms of its leaders [Re: DieCommie]
    #9172997 - 11/02/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I think hes saying how many languages you speak isnt relevant to intelligence.




If that is what he is saying, we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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