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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17588872 - 01/22/13 04:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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a dream image may seem to be a sequence, or a sequence may seem to be just one scene with a some variance in it similar to background noise, or a minor choreographic turn, often replayed or somehow sustained, recycled, visited at other angles.
meditation is like that, for me, while I do intend a solid focus, the matter is not exactly still, it settles, but it is not exactly still, I drive to the core of it, and that image is the tableau
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17588884 - 01/22/13 04:43 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: ... I've literally met and talked to dozens and dozens of meditators and they all talk about what is possible but it hasn't happened to them yet...
What is the sound of a market trend? promise, entice, sell, get others to sell for you... the carrot is siddhi, or magic, or some complicated mumbo jumbo about the ego.
for me it is about 'what is mindspace', and how to move more freely in it. I don't think this is what consumers generally want.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: redgreenvines]
#17589061 - 01/22/13 07:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree. Most have magical all problem solving visions of meditation. I'm not saying it doesn't have benefits. I did get some benefit from meditation and still do a body scan meditation often.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17589442 - 01/22/13 09:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I've literally met and talked to dozens and dozens of meditators and they all talk about what is possible but it hasn't happened to them yet. I never met one who had his shit together.
Maybe they would be worse without it? It's not the key to solving all of life's problems. It's simply a way to give yourself more control over your emotions.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Learyfan]
#17589453 - 01/22/13 09:53 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe, but I'm addressing their claims of the amazing almost magical or magical benefits of meditation when they never seem to exhibit these benefits themselves.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Learyfan] 1
#17589828 - 01/22/13 11:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm... Once, I went to a "low-energy" yoga (only word I can think to describe it atm) where we focused on breathing, proper posture, etc. At the end we held the corpse pose. My mind was racing, but I was "in the moment" and focused only on the immediate situation. Not sure if that counts as a true meditation session. I left the session with a huge smile on my face. I felt SO good.
I've intentionally meditated a few times, focusing on letting thoughts go, but nothing longer than 15 minutes.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#17589905 - 01/22/13 11:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Penelope_Tree said: I've intentionally meditated a few times, focusing on letting thoughts go, but nothing longer than 15 minutes.
When you don't do it often, it's a challenge to do it for very long. Just like any physical activity. I find that my mind is always trying to get me to go back to my old thought habits. It sneaks up on me and before I know it, I'm not meditating anymore. At that 15 minute mark, when you stopped, you should have kept going just to see how it feels to completely disobey your habit energy and take control of the wheel again and drive yourself. It feels good. I should use this thread as motivation to start meditating again. I remember that I was a lot more relaxed and in control of my own mind.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Learyfan] 1
#17589953 - 01/22/13 12:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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At that 15 minute mark, when you stopped, you should have kept going just to see how it feels to completely disobey your habit energy and take control of the wheel again and drive yourself.
I set a timer so that I would stop in 15 minutes. I had thangs to do (like go to work). I found myself wanting to get up & do something after like 3 or 4 minutes.. so.. 15 was a challenge! I should've done it at night, after all obligations were taken care of (yes, Penny, keep that in mind).
I agree meditation is a discipline and requires practice to reap the benefits. I initially started to help with the process of lucid dreaming, as well as to gain the other, more tangible benefits that I've read about in research (improved cognitive functioning).
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
#17590091 - 01/22/13 12:36 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I once watched an 8 hour Star Trek Marathon.
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One hour so far.
My thoughts are slightly a mess. Such a pleasure seeker, I crave physical reward. If only every meditation session ended with a good meal or a massage..
Does the vehicle serve it's purpose? What purpose is there but what has been spoken of by the gurus and masters? Self-realization?
No! You're doing it wrong!
There is a right way?
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Kupo]
#17601789 - 01/24/13 11:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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6 hours of improv with my guitar
cbf sitting cross legged
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Withinity]
#17602060 - 01/24/13 11:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess anything can be called mediation then. I've done 10 hours moving mediation on a trout stream and 2 weeks backpacking in the high desert.
Beat that.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17602099 - 01/24/13 11:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was in a delerium for 6 days with a high fever.
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My two weeks still bests that.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17603335 - 01/24/13 03:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never moved. You were walking. No contest.
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The earth was turning and moving through space. The difference in our speeds was negligible.
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17603365 - 01/24/13 03:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Point taken.
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Isn't meditation fun!
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Re: What's your longest meditation session? [Re: Icelander]
#17603390 - 01/24/13 03:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am always going back and fixing my posts. That is called editation.
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Remover of doubts, I summon thee!
Mmm.. fishing is good meditation.
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