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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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InvisibleChronic7

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Negation
    #9154054 - 10/29/08 12:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I find it incredible how negating everything, simply rejecting everything somehow brings immense love

I see it as if you are for or against something then you have more personal investment in that something, which then gives that something power over you & your peace/stability of mind, but when you completely negate everything then nothing has power over you, which enables you to see from a more impersonal space with less judgement & investment in outcome, so more freedom

Its as if rejecting all impermanent objects allows the permanent subject to shine unto itself

Anyone else explored this?

Maybe a less negative & more mentally 'acceptible' term would be letting go, but not everyone can 'let go' & we are all experts at negating things!


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Re: Negation [Re: Chronic7]
    #9154227 - 10/29/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i just thought it was my snarky nature to be negative to everything
and just have to run a repair droid continuously -
somehow at some point I have begun to identify with the repair droid.
it is a divided consciousness.


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Re: Negation [Re: Chronic7]
    #9154338 - 10/29/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Chronic777 said:
I find it incredible how negating everything, simply rejecting everything somehow brings immense love




or is it that you accept it by seeing these things as they are, therefore releasing the built up tension and becoming receptive?

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InvisibleChronic7

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Re: Negation [Re: deranger]
    #9154387 - 10/29/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I guess what i really mean is negating finding a sense of Self in any object, resting as nothing


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Re: Negation [Re: Chronic7]
    #9154473 - 10/29/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Nietzsche's man of ressentiment (resentment)?

Isn't the idea of (-) reactionary?

Just playing devils advocate (-).

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InvisibleChronic7

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Re: Negation [Re: daytripper23]
    #9154485 - 10/29/08 02:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Huh?


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Re: Negation [Re: Chronic7]
    #9154520 - 10/29/08 02:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

A negative as in a reaction to a positive reality... Reactionary

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Re: Negation [Re: Chronic7]
    #9158441 - 10/30/08 09:31 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I find it incredible how negating everything, simply rejecting everything somehow brings immense love


This makes no sense to me.  If a mother was not "for" her newborn child she would not give it the care it needs. We have instincts and a mind for a reason you know.

The problem I see here is you want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The only reason to negate is because one considers it a negative.

I think it's better to embrace everything rather than negate it. This means fully being what one is in all that messy physical glory. Until this is accomplished there is no point in trying to go beyond because you will be running away from rather then approaching something. This is what most who are "seeking enlightenment" are doing. They are running away from dealing with the uncomfortable and messy parts of existence. It can't be done IMO. " You can't get out of it, until you get into it." -Genesis from The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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