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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: chodamunky]
    #911138 - 09/26/02 11:08 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I think it has to do with what Shroomery handle you choose...


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: matts]
    #911908 - 09/27/02 09:21 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Stephen Hawking has Lou Gehrig's Syndrome, not Down's Syndrome.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: chodamunky]
    #911962 - 09/27/02 09:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Every mind has the potential for a universal intelligence, its just different ways of thinking. there things blocking everyone from having the perfect way of thinking.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #912305 - 09/27/02 12:43 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

each person has the perfect way of thinking according to what they came to experience...


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: In(di)go]
    #912495 - 09/27/02 02:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Why are some people smarter than others?

why isnt everyone exactly the same?


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: chodamunky]
    #912730 - 09/27/02 04:06 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

We are equal but not the same.

MAIA


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: matts]
    #914642 - 09/28/02 10:50 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

I know a guy at my high school had downs, and he was the smartest person in the school. He could only see in the red spectrum, couldn't talk, and had trouble walking. He communicated by 'typing' with a mouse pad that had the letters of the alphabet on it. He was graduating with honors and going into college, when he was 15. Furthermore, they didn't know he had any potential to communicate until he was older.




I think you're confused.
down's syndrome is characterized by significant mental retardation. its victims require specialized education and job training because they don't have the potential to get to college... it is said they don't get past the intellectual level of an 8 year old.
they don't have communication problems, exactly, they can be friendly and talkative, but don't expect to discuss politics or philosophy with them.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: chodamunky]
    #914707 - 09/28/02 11:39 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Your friend demonstrates a specific type of intelligence - one that has practical/material benefits associated with it. Like all types of intelligence, each type can be seen as bounded, or on a continuum that fades in and out.
I am more of a 'word' person than a 'numbers' person. My logical capabilities seem to take shape with words, while I have to check my plastic tip-guide in a restaurant for basic arithmetic. There are athletes with 'kinaesthetic' intelligence - individuals in all arenas: tennis, football, basketball, golf, boxing, etc. who may or may not have word or number mastery (the stereotypical dumb-jock who gets paid big bucks, but speaks like he is retarded).

MY question, as well as my lament, is 'why aren't there women who have the physical attributes of a porn star, with the moral development of a saint, and the mental capabilities of a philosopher-scientist. Why are there thousands upon thousands of unbelievably gorgeous-looking women on the net and in mags, who are intellectual and moral morons? Comedian Chris Rock said that when Carmen Electra was asked by Howard Stern, 'who freed the slaves?,' (i.e., Lincoln), she didn't know!

On the flip-flop, why is Mike Tyson's kinesthetic and physical attributes so disproportionate to his mental-moral attributes? Why is Stephen Hawking's mind conjoined to a ravaged body such that lying or name-calling (electronically speaking) could even be the extent of his moral-immoral behavior? So these are philosophical questions to your question, not answers. I do not look for the physiological descriptions of optimal neuronal functioning, but rather to this grotesque imbalance that can create the stunning, stupid suicidal slut Savannah, who kills herself for a scar on her cheek; and a sensitive, selfless but suffering John Merrick (the Elephant Man) who endures a living hell until his own deformity kills him. I am left with the question..."WTF?!"


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #914943 - 09/28/02 01:47 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Incredible Markos.  I like your questions better than your answers. :wink:  (teasing)

Cheers, 

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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: ]
    #915083 - 09/28/02 02:40 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks...I think.  :smile:


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #915099 - 09/28/02 02:52 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Good, that always helps. :wink:

I think too.  I hope it shows. :smile:

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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: ]
    #915112 - 09/28/02 02:57 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, it does. Now check your e mail.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #915133 - 09/28/02 03:08 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Boy am I glad you told me to check my e-mail!

It is set to exclusive and unless I authorize a person's address it goes immediately to the trash can. I have set it now so yours will always get through.

I really really really really really really really hate spam!

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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: ]
    #915202 - 09/28/02 03:41 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

This is good, 'cause if you look again, I've sent a quick story that WILL make you LOL.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #915250 - 09/28/02 03:57 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

LOL  Yes, that was funny!

This is why I stick to sticky putty.  Otherwise I get confused. :wink:

Cheers, 

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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: chodamunky]
    #915689 - 09/28/02 08:10 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

i think being "smart" it has more to do with your perspective of the world. Your perspective determines your level calmness, introversion, extroversion, your level of concentration and interest in the world. it determines if you are curious about the world and more willing to question dogma. everyone has a unique perspective of the world which i believe is influenced 85% by environment from a young age and 15% dna.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: 1stimer]
    #915699 - 09/28/02 08:13 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

how did you come up with these percents?
maybe some people are influenced 50% by environment and 50% by dna
or maybe some are influenced 85% by DNA and 15% by environment


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #915711 - 09/28/02 08:17 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

just a rough personal guess. nothing scientific. i was just trying to say that i think that we are more a reflection of our environment than ourselves.

do you think you would use a fork when you eat if you werent influenced to do so? what about speak english or wipe your ass? almost everything we do we were influenced to do. i estimate that 85% or more of everthing that we (mentally and physically) do is influenced by our environment.


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: 1stimer]
    #915713 - 09/28/02 08:18 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I thought you were talking about one's "perspective on the world", not simply useful learned behaviors


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Re: why are some people smarter than others? [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #915717 - 09/28/02 08:20 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

our behaviors reflect our perspective.


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