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clemens
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I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD
#9150284 - 10/28/08 07:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms make me trip way harder than LSD. What do you think?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9150301 - 10/28/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Different strokes for different folks. I like LSD for different reasons that I like mushrooms. I prefer mushrooms solely based on the fact that they have a lot more "spirit" behind them.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9150309 - 10/28/08 07:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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different strokes for different folks. everyone reacts differently to different chemicals. i for one love my lsd, but shrooms are nice too.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9150322 - 10/28/08 07:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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OH NO YOU DI'INT!
I dunno man, its all dose dependent if you ask me. Eat 30 mg of psilocybin and you'll trip pretty hard, but eat 30 mg od LSD and you'll trip balls for like a week.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: mofo]
#9150346 - 10/28/08 07:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSD produces less hallucinogenic effects for me. Every mushroom experience I have I feel like I am about to die. When I am on mushrooms I just want to comedown. LSD leaves me wanting more
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD *DELETED* [Re: mofo]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150375 - 10/28/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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only one person has died from lsd and that was injected 320 mgs. people have most definitely eaten over half a gram of lsd crystal, its is thrown up later. but 10 mgs is def. NOT the lethal dose.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: mofo]
#9150396 - 10/28/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mofo said: OH NO YOU DI'INT!
I dunno man, its all dose dependent if you ask me. Eat 30 mg of psilocybin and you'll trip pretty hard, but eat 30 mg od LSD and you'll trip balls for like a week.
Doesn't matter, those doses are not even in the same ballpark. One of those could be considered a "dose" (the psilocybin) and the other one is about 300 doses.
Mushrooms DO make me "trip" harder than LSD, the meaning of harder being basically that they have more character to them. LSD is kind of like a generic trip. You see stuff, you feel funny, you can either focus on it or go about your business. With mushrooms, you don't have the ability to make that choice; I am fully engaged in the experience for better or worse. It is more more powerful and forceful. They do have a certain spirit to them, it feels like a teacher. LSD just feels like recreation.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: the free thinker]
#9150408 - 10/28/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSD, really, was always meant to be a mainstream psychedelic by greater powers. It's sole purpose is to be flexible enough to be misused and STILL change a generation.
More than a few times, though, I have felt an intense "recognition" between LSD and my system. LSD to me personally feels like a psychic cleanser, and opposed to Mushrooms is sort of an Earth-energy magnet.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD *DELETED* [Re: publicenemy1]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150479 - 10/28/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, you haven't done al you're research. that is for small animals if im not mistaken. if you know so much from erowid you should know about the only recorded death. LSD is a non toxic chemical, it is speculated that his respiratory systems collapsed from the dose. read the crystal to blotter and thrumbprint threads courtesy of chinacat.
edit: BTW, I'm positive it's 320 mg because the man made a mistake thinking it was speed. i know this shit.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9150495 - 10/28/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aldous Huxley doesn't count
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD *DELETED* [Re: publicenemy1]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9150506 - 10/28/08 07:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, although its probably not a wise dose. I shouldn't have said that. Whats a thumbprint, 5-10 mg?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150510 - 10/28/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aww... the nooby hasn't read the thumbprint thread yet. How adorable. Learn.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9150514 - 10/28/08 07:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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mushrooms are gnar, ive been scared to eat them for awhile now. i have some laying around. maybe i will be brave and eat them sometime. what do they mix well with.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150530 - 10/28/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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im just pointing on the facts that there is only one recorded death.
there are numerous accounts of heroic doses beyond 12,000 ug (12mg).
those tests are done on small lab animals.
erowid is the most reputable source but their lethal dose is not for humans, i highly suggest using the search function to investigate the matter more.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: the free thinker]
#9150532 - 10/28/08 07:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms DO make me "trip" harder than LSD, the meaning of harder being basically that they have more character to them. LSD is kind of like a generic trip. You see stuff, you feel funny, you can either focus on it or go about your business. With mushrooms, you don't have the ability to make that choice; I am fully engaged in the experience for better or worse. It is more more powerful and forceful. They do have a certain spirit to them, it feels like a teacher. LSD just feels like recreation.
Very well put. I was trying to discern the differences between the two in my head for a while and I've never been able to put it quite so clearly b4.
EDIT: didn't mean to make everything bold
Edited by Feeling_of_Sound (10/28/08 08:01 PM)
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: mofo]
#9150545 - 10/28/08 07:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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dude there was a guy on here who wrote the from crystal to blotter thread and he spoke of a guy eating a gram of pure as hell LSD crystal and living so you are extremely incorrect.
i like how some one put it a while a go that with LSD you are in the driver seat and with shrooms you are a passenger. i like shrooms for what they hold and lsd to party
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD *DELETED* [Re: SummerDaisies]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150585 - 10/28/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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extremely interesting, theres so much literature out there waiting to be read. enlighten yourself. thanks for being a good sport about it, but i'm someone who deeply respects lsd and hates to see rumors just thrown out there.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150586 - 10/28/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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asdf512tx said: Looks like im outnumbered and am not correct, then sorry and now i know. Ill keep reading on the subject, as this is an interesting subject, no?
Very
And don't worry too much. The shroomery mentality is to mob, and forcibly beat people into education.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150591 - 10/28/08 08:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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very intriguing indeed
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150607 - 10/28/08 08:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I definitely trip harder on shrooms. IME ten hits of LSD can't match the pure headfuck that comes from even just 1-2 grams of good cubies. Shrooms definitely have a dimension that is lacked by LSD.
Personally, I like LSD because it is a simpler trip overall. Much easier to prepare for. I've had bad trips on shrooms when I thought the set and setting were fine, but LSD is always smooth sailing.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9150640 - 10/28/08 08:13 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I prefer mushrooms only because I get no visual hallucinations. I become omniscient.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9150659 - 10/28/08 08:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like to eat mushies when I personally pick them, as I feel it is destined for me to eat them. & in the same way, I like to eat LSD when LSD comes my way.. But for the most part, I tend to think mushies trick your brain through thoughts, while LSD tricks your brain through visuals.. Not to say they aren't both visual.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: MustNotBe]
#9150700 - 10/28/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i don't like mushrooms too much anymore. i get no visuals or anything like that. that I can handle, but it's almost like I don't even trip on them much anymore. but I do however get confused as hell. not introspective or anything, just confused. i feel stupid; i can't piece together thoughts, i can't talk, i can't focus on anything.. oftentimes I get couch locked and veg out feeling like a total tard.
i also get ridiculous body loads. the only body load i can think of that's more unpleasent than mushrooms is diphenhydramamine. mushies weren't always so mean to me, though. i'm pretty sure my "abuse," of mushrooms and the repeated heroic doses of my youth are to blame. i hope one day we get along better, but right now I hate mushrooms. my last 6 or 7 trips have been like this. i don't seem to experience anything during my trips except this body load, confusion, and a general feeling of dysphoria. the last time I had fun on mushrooms I was probably 18 and i'm 22 now.
acid however, it doesn't do me that way. less body load, more open mind, general enjoyment of the experience, etc. i actually feel like i'm tripping when I drop acid, not like I just consumed some drug that god put on earth to make me hate life.
but i do miss mushrooms :/ they used to be the shit.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: zSDMF]
#9150734 - 10/28/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn that's the first time i've ever really thought about my recent relationship with psilocybin. now that i'm seriously thinking about it, mushrooms are one of my least favorite drugs lol. i've always considered them awesome because of how they've treated me in the past.. it's really surprising to me for some reason that i typed that out. i wish it weren't true but the more i think about it the more i realize it's true for me.
it sucks, feels like i've lost a best friend or something.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: DreamSignals]
#9150759 - 10/28/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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DreamSignals said: LSD, really, was always meant to be a mainstream psychedelic by greater powers. It's sole purpose is to be flexible enough to be misused and STILL change a generation.
What?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: kc_accidental]
#9150874 - 10/28/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acid is cool because someone can be like, oh i'm just gonna get fucked up with this. And they end up learning something. If you went into other psych's with that attitude you would come out with a bad experience.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9150899 - 10/28/08 09:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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clemens said: Mushrooms make me trip way harder than LSD. What do you think?
that you get good mushrooms and/or shitty LSD?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: TacticalBongRip]
#9151076 - 10/28/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mushrooms are certainly a more engrossing experience for me. At the same time, I find them gentler than acid.
Acid is so transparent in comparison, which is part of the reason I really love it. It's versatility is key.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: wildchild68]
#9151224 - 10/28/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I pretty much agree with you about shrooms being more gentle. A big factor for my LSD preference probably has to do with the fact that i usually get stomach discomfort from shrooms and lsd just lasts a whole lot longer. also, visual distortions are much more geometrical on lsd, in my experience. i still love shrooms tho
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: SirSmokesAlot]
#9151327 - 10/28/08 10:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirSmokesAlot said: Acid is cool because someone can be like, oh i'm just gonna get fucked up with this. And they end up learning something. If you went into other psych's with that attitude you would come out with a bad experience.
Acid is not mdma. People looking to get fucked up have bad trips all the time. Don't know what your talking about.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: MustNotBe]
#9151385 - 10/28/08 10:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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MustNotBe said:
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SirSmokesAlot said: Acid is cool because someone can be like, oh i'm just gonna get fucked up with this. And they end up learning something. If you went into other psych's with that attitude you would come out with a bad experience.
Acid is not mdma. People looking to get fucked up have bad trips all the time. Don't know what your talking about.
Ok truth, people do have bad trips. But it is much more forgiving than shrooms especially in the 75-125ug(average one hit) range. And MDMA is very likely to give you a bad trip if you don't know what your doing, or what to expect. It would also not help you learn anything like i said in my post.
Also i didn't say acid didn't produce bad trips, i just said you would learn something as a result, even if you just came into it to get fucked up. So don't tell me i don't know what i'm talking about, if all your going to do is misconstrue my post and pretend like i was talking about MDMA.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9151612 - 10/28/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have heard a lot of people say this and this is the reason... Average lsd on a hit of lsd these days is probably like 80 micrograms, with 100 micrograms being very good. I would say that people take like 1 or 2 hits of this and than conclude that mushrooms make you trip harder. An eight of mushrooms is probably equal to atleast 300 micrograms of lsd if not a little more. so 1 or 2 hits of like 80 microgram acid is not going to knock your socks off. And to be honest i think 80 micrograms is good, i bet most acid going around is like 50 micrograms a blotter. so most people who just come across it and take a hit or two at a time are getting 200 micrograms best case scenario, which is HIGHLY UNLIKELY, and in most cases getting a 100-160mcg lsd experience, which is not that intense and i they are taking 1 hit getting less than 100 micrograms and that really is just not an lsd experience to be honest. its just dosage
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: LedHead]
#9151659 - 10/28/08 11:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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the best way to do it is to get 15 miligrams of pure psilocybin and 10mgs of pure psilocin ond turn of the lights and roll with it
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Mushr00m_Man]
#9151810 - 10/28/08 11:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had a trip on two hits of acid that was way way more intense than an experience on an 1/8th of hpoo grown shrooms. I don't think either is better/trippier/more intense than the other, it all just comes down to set/setting, dosage, mindset etc.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9151901 - 10/28/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk if mushrooms are more trippy than LSD, but I have definitely had more crazy trips from shrooms than LSD. Then again, I have taken moderately low dosages of LSD(never more than 2 hits).
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: kc_accidental]
#9151999 - 10/29/08 12:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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DreamSignals said: LSD, really, was always meant to be a mainstream psychedelic by greater powers. It's sole purpose is to be flexible enough to be misused and STILL change a generation.
What?
What I mean is that the general effects of LSD are sort of a deconstruction of assumed and conditioned beliefs and behavioral patterns. Such effects could very well to transcendental and spiritual experiences, for sure, but it is so flexible, so utterly dynamic, that even the misuse of it could be beneficial to the world at large, a sort of "all roads lead to Eden" type of scenario. (after all people all the way from Timothy Leary to the CIA were completely fascinated by the substance, as it unveiled the subconscious mind, and even more so than that, empowered the individual to direct/orchestrate the reconstruction of his "sober" mind)
With mushrooms, it seems to me that it has a rather strong energetic presence, it is less dynamic of acid, but in that sense it has greater depth (more concentration ON the transcendental/spiritual aspects of the psychedelic experience). They demand more respect, simply because it is almost as you did not have the ability to pick and choose which aspects of your mind are unlocked, but as if there was something else choosing which aspects of your mind must be challenged, for your own therapeutic benefit. The ego will sometimes not like this, one bit.
In our society that bathes the ego in the waters of glamour, the mushroom spirit would be hardly misused, too many unwanted lessons would be learnt.
That's what I meant. It is no mystery that the greater social changes of the 60s were catalyzed by a mainstream use of LSD, specifically, in a sort of rebellion mood that allowed certain aspects of the ego to be somewhat in control, while the truth pieced itself back together.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: DreamSignals]
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No doubt the typical doses of mushrooms people eat compared to the typical dose of LSD can be a bit relative, the LSD is more apt to change in a greater range of potency... compared to mushrooms so its hard to compare the doses. I agree that from my experience too mushrooms have always had a more bodily feel and confusion to them, but I still feel like the two are very very similar its just that LSD seems a bit more stretched out, everything on mushrooms seems to hit faster and harder... but I would suppose a higher doses of LSD would lead to the same things? How do high doses of LSD and mushrooms compare?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: andrewss]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: andrewss]
#9152469 - 10/29/08 01:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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andrewss said: How do high doses of LSD and mushrooms compare?
they dont, at high levels i can really see and feel all the differences. Mushrooms are so swirly and meltly for me where as L seems to be more geometric at high doses. The head high is nothing alike. Mushrooms fuck with my head big time.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: SummerDaisies]
#9152917 - 10/29/08 05:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like both and they both of their ups and their downs.
Cid is a great for going out and parting but it leaves me brain dead for a day or so after. and 12 hours is such a long trip especially if you drop it at 3AM (never doing that again)
shrooms are more my thing it gives me well me time to sit think and realign myself just wish i could trip with other on shrooms can't seem to do that, Visuals for me on shrooms are much stronger to. not on wild ones so much though
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Ozzy_shroomer]
#9153008 - 10/29/08 06:32 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I say 'shrooms win. Hands down. Happier and more mellow.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9156213 - 10/29/08 08:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hardly see a difference between the two.
I think you are silly.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: DreamSignals]
#9156244 - 10/29/08 08:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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DreamSignals said: Different strokes for different folks. I like LSD for different reasons that I like mushrooms. I prefer mushrooms solely based on the fact that they have a lot more "spirit" behind them.
Why explain when someone has done it for me ^^
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: plasma]
#9156306 - 10/29/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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they are both extemely "trippy"
but i have to say there's something much more primal about mushrooms.
shrooms for me every time.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9156310 - 10/29/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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clemens said: LSD produces less hallucinogenic effects for me. Every mushroom experience I have I feel like I am about to die. When I am on mushrooms I just want to comedown. LSD leaves me wanting more
depends on what mushrooms you have. I recently had some treasure coast that were like all visual and no mindfuck and I ate a bunch of those over 3 days and would love to have some more...
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9156416 - 10/29/08 08:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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in my experience 15 hits of lsd isn't much different than 20. lsd sort of clears my brain and leaves it open to the endless potential and possibilities of the brain, mind and universe. so once my brains clear it's not gonna get much clearer. it will last longer. motor skills and speech might be more impaired but it pretty much is the same 15, 20, 25. the difference between 2 grams of and 4 grams of good shrooms could be laughing a lot and seeing some distortions or with 4 grams losing my whole field of vision to visions of heaven or hell and being reduced to the fetal position wishing i could just go back to being normal. too much shrooms causes black outs too. not with lsd their both "trippy" just in different ways. my opinion
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9156452 - 10/29/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow great thread...tripped my face of with LSD on several occasions a few years ago.. mostly an awe inspiring experience altho had 1 really bad trip (bad company I'm pretty sure). had my my first ever successful shroom hunt this year all be it only enough for a solo trip so far (die frost die). should i have any thing to worry about. thinking of taking on enough shrooms for a hard first shroom trip according to advice given on a previous thread
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: jay.p]
#9156500 - 10/29/08 09:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i did something very irresponsible the other day.
I ate a little over 2 grams the other day and drove 2hr 45min back to my university because I was feelin the cosmic vibes...
I couldnt read the numbers on my speedometer and was getting some awesome visuals, but not one bit anxious or nervous. I think mushrooms just have to warm up to you, then you can dose without worrying.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: AgingHippy]
#9157090 - 10/29/08 11:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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teefizzle said: i did something very irresponsible the other day.
I ate a little over 2 grams the other day and drove 2hr 45min back to my university because I was feelin the cosmic vibes...
I couldnt read the numbers on my speedometer and was getting some awesome visuals, but not one bit anxious or nervous. I think mushrooms just have to warm up to you, then you can dose without worrying.
Driving on shrooms is great, but it's INCREDIBLY easy to get lost. Driving on acid is ...interesting, because part of someone who is definitely not me feels awesome and cocky like nothing bad can happen because that guy that's not me is so dope, another part of him feels like he's going to get pulled over any second and beaten to death, and the rest of him is completely immersed in the road/dashboard/music experience. He seem to be much more in control, although it FEELS less safe because he's so mentally expanded. He feels like he couldn't possibly have enough concentration to go on, but he does, and he ends up fully 100% engrossed in the driving experience. It all seems like One.
This brings me to a big difference between acid and mushrooms. Mushroom visuals tend to involve the entire room/scene/whatever place you're in. For example, when driving, every road is an unbelievably long tunnel and no matter how hard some one that's not I tries, he find it impossible to have even a slight understanding of whether he's on the right street or not, or how long he's been on the street, or how long he has till the street ends, even on roads he drives on every single day.
Plus, completely aside from that, everywhere I look, "The Faces" are there. I dunno if anyone else knows what I'm talking about... I ALWAYS see "The Faces"... Maybe it's just my psyches way of dealing with the experience, maybe it's because I always feel like people are looking at me, but especially while tripping (but while sober too), and ESPECIALLY on mushrooms, I always see what seem to be Ancient Face Archetypes made of sticks/linoleum patterns/wood grain/dirt/clouds/lights/everything. They're the first thing I notice when I start tripping, and they seem to be looking at me and letting me know that I'm about to "Experience It".
On acid the visuals have so much more to do with fine detail rather than the entire atmosphere, and seemingly more to do with what *I* am thinking about, whereas mushrooms (as mentioned many times) have a pretty well mapped out experience that it's going to 'put you through' depending on what it wants to do with you on that particular occasion.
I think Mushrooms are more Ritualistically Spiritual than Acid. but personally, I'd say LSD *defines* "Trippy", quite literally. The ENTIRE psychedelic industry (as in the mainstream industry of pretty swirly tyedye colors and commercials and shit) is based on the commonly known parts of the LSD experience.
To me "trippy" means "shit that resembles the potential sensory experiences that one can attain through Psychedelic Drugs", leaning heavily on visual activity, and I'd wager that most popular representations of psychedelic sensory experience attempt to mimic, or make reference to acid)
As far as mushrooms warming up to you, I'd definitely say that it seems like they have to want, even *desire* to give you Their Experience.
Anyawys, as far as driving and tripping, I wouldn't "recommend" it, but I would say that it's FUCKING AWESOME, and you should use your personal judgment on that matter (or the judgment of some one more responsible than you, if you're a tool).
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: LSDXM]
#9158886 - 10/30/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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the other day when i was on mushrooms i realized how mushroom visuals work with what's already there, like pebbles on the ground would move around and change size, but acid visuals (for me) tend to involve things that aren't really there like detailed pattern overlays.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: AgingHippy]
#9158898 - 10/30/08 11:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acid does the same thing. I get kaleidoscopic patterns on mushrooms too... which surely aren't already there. They both make things shift and move on the ground though.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: LSDXM]
#9159702 - 10/30/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Krash Kharma said: Anyawys, as far as driving and tripping, I wouldn't "recommend" it, but I would say that it's FUCKING AWESOME, and you should use your personal judgment on that matter
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: the free thinker]
#9159934 - 10/30/08 04:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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For me, LSD is a lot more visual. It's also not as heavy of a body load as shrooms.
Shrooms is like getting run over by a truck while on LSD.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: 04281969]
#9160316 - 10/30/08 05:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've had pretty strong trips on both. I'd say shrooms fuck with you a lot more, and my visuals on shrooms were much more intense. Things were really confusing and I was tripping really hard, the body load was ridiculous. On acid, I feel like I'm full of energy and the world around me slows down and comes into perspective. It's a lot more peaceful than shrooms, IMO.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: LSDaytripper]
#9160471 - 10/30/08 06:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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On mushrooms I feel like I have endless love and energy. On the other hand, LSD makes me feel all crazy, lots of paisley pattern overlay, perspective is the word that echoes in my head.
I love mushrooms so so so much. LSD is fun, but I definitely prefer fungi. Mushrooms are what I want when I want something spiritual. Acid I can dick around on and maybe get some introspective thoughts
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: TacticalBongRip]
#9160691 - 10/30/08 07:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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TacticalBongRip said: I pretty much agree with you about shrooms being more gentle. A big factor for my LSD preference probably has to do with the fact that i usually get stomach discomfort from shrooms and lsd just lasts a whole lot longer. also, visual distortions are much more geometrical on lsd, in my experience. i still love shrooms tho
See I guess these drugs really just effect people differently. I would say I never get geometrical patterns on LSD and on mushrooms if I close my eyes for more that a minute I see the most amazing patterns. I never really get any close eye visuals on LSD tho. The CEVs I get from shrooms absolutely blow my mind and my eyes. I swear the CEVs I get from a healthy shroom trip look more real than anything I have ever seen.
LSD only really last a few hours for me too. After about 4 hours I don't consider myself "tripping" anymore. Even tho I am still seeing tracers. The mind fuck is the trip for me.
And last, acid is way more gentle for me than mushrooms. On acid I am expecting the whole time that I will keep coming up and that I am about to reach the real "trip". On a good(3.5 grams) dose of shrooms I am begging god to leave me with some sanity at the end.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: asdf512tx]
#9161063 - 10/30/08 08:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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lsd over shrooms but there totally different.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: DahuiHeeNalu]
#9161257 - 10/30/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i dont really like acid cause i've never gotten the full effect. But seriously, i think its just me. I've done the same blotters as my friends over 5 times; while they tripped hard, i just had a weird body buzz and couldn't stop smiling. never had visuals on acid at all while they had straight hallucinations of things that were not there. mushrooms on the other hand.... that's a different story, it's my drug of choice! hallucnations of patterns, moving objects and moving/distortions, love the body load and different thought process!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9161791 - 10/30/08 10:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds like to me you are just taking too small of a dose. A good strong acid trip will give you visuals like you won't believe
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: PreparationH]
#9161804 - 10/30/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think its safe to say at this point if you are not having full out visuals on lsd then you have probably taken a low dose and are missing out on the geometrical slosh of insanity that awaits you
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: TacticalBongRip]
#9162048 - 10/30/08 11:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya, neither is more visual than the other really.
Take ONE super strong gel tab of lsd and you would be swimming in visuals within 40 minutes.
The visuals are just different.
I think lsd is the most complex hallucinogen out there.
The cognitive effects come very easily on a low dose. The visuals become very apparent at about the 100 mic range(for most people)...............
They are both beyond the word "trippy" is all im saying.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: yageman]
#9163025 - 10/31/08 05:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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The acid I get is apparently so good that none of my friends take more than 2. I take 3-4 and never reach the effects they are talking about. These are geltabs BTW. I do trip for sure but it is nothing compared to mushroom madness
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#9163427 - 10/31/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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acid things usually get this feeling of everything is fitting together like perfectly events time and shit with minor hallucinations while mushrooms are like your complete reality is off and alien-like i dont no about hallucination but definitely tripping and seeing wierd shit
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Mastamike1118]
#9163434 - 10/31/08 09:10 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i never get visuials with mushrooms. i have one time but it was right before i blacked out for a few hours. it seems like i can't break through with them.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: zSDMF]
#9163753 - 10/31/08 10:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea, visuals on shrooms are hit or miss with me too. I've seen walls breathe, wood patterns flow, and even limited cartoon CEV's, but I can't count on it. I can have a shroom trip that is TOO INTENSE, but no visuals at all.
LSD on the other hand, always delivers the little gears and color fountain CEV's.
But, that's just been my experience.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9164618 - 10/31/08 01:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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publicenemy1 said: im just pointing on the facts that there is only one recorded death.
Please point us to the information. Where can we find the record?
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there are numerous accounts of heroic doses beyond 12,000 ug (12mg).
Please point us to where we can find such reports.
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those tests are done on small lab animals.
Which tests are "those"? The estimate on Erowid for a fatal dose of LSD is an estimate based on animal data, but the 12 mg data is not directly taken from any given animal.
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but their lethal dose is not for humans, i highly suggest using the search function to investigate the matter more.
The dose given on Erowid is, as far as I can tell, an estimate which is supposed to be for humans. I really don't see why you think that posts on the Shroomery are going to give a more reliable estimate on the possible lethal dose of LSD for humans. Most people here are not toxicologists.
I also think that it is completely irresponsible of you to claim that there are numerous reports of people taking LSD beyond 12 mg. I seriously doubt that you can find one CREDIBLE report of such a dose. Even if you can, big fucking deal. Just because some people might survive an IDIOTIC dose of LSD, doesn't mean that everyone will.
Please also look at the references at the bottom of this link (esp. the report on eight cases of massive LSD overdose.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Plasmid]
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: LSDXM]
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I think Mushrooms are more Ritualistically Spiritual than Acid.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: SummerDaisies]
#9182196 - 11/04/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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SummerDaisies said: mushrooms are gnar, ive been scared to eat them for awhile now. i have some laying around. maybe i will be brave and eat them sometime. what do they mix well with.
Have you done mushrooms before?
You should take them on some spontaneous occasion and just float.
They mix well with succulent fruit and kind herb (Salvia as well for the adventurous).
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Innoculus]
#9241556 - 11/13/08 11:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I want is for publicenemy1 to back up what he just said.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Plasmid]
#9242098 - 11/14/08 01:37 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sure he forgot what he said by now, and now will re-read the thread and be like ".... Huh. I said this?"
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Innoculus]
#9243682 - 11/14/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I said there is only one lsd overdose which was caused by respiratory system failure. use the search or google and look up lsd overdose or toxicity and you will find a detailed report on the death.
the ld50 for lab rats is 12.000 ugs, its gonna be a fuck load bigger for humans (couldn't even begin to speculate). either way, there is only one death from LSD... ONE DEATH. would you like to show me the astounding research about any other deaths that prove the lethal dose in humans is 12,000 ugs?
people ate over 300 mgs on tour with the dead and you would know this if you read chinacats threads like stated before.
don't be so butthurts because i returned the favor and gave you a bad rating after i asked you to back up your claim that lsd has a lethal dose. you didn't back it up and im not gonna waste my time looking up and rehashing old articles just for you.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
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I think too many people are underestimating the importance of having an empty stomach on shrooms. If you want visuals DO NOT EAT before and grind that shit up. My friend wasn't getting visuals on the last few trips, but I was, the only difference? I'd fast beforehand, now he does the same and we both get visuals on shrooms.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Feeling_of_Sound]
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Mushrooms DO make me "trip" harder than LSD, the meaning of harder being basically that they have more character to them. LSD is kind of like a generic trip. You see stuff, you feel funny, you can either focus on it or go about your business. With mushrooms, you don't have the ability to make that choice; I am fully engaged in the experience for better or worse. It is more more powerful and forceful. They do have a certain spirit to them, it feels like a teacher. LSD just feels like recreation.
Very well put. I was trying to discern the differences between the two in my head for a while and I've never been able to put it quite so clearly b4.
EDIT: didn't mean to make everything bold
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9245429 - 11/14/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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publicenemy1 said: I said there is only one lsd overdose which was caused by respiratory system failure. use the search or google and look up lsd overdose or toxicity and you will find a detailed report on the death.
Why can't you just point to it? I can't find it.
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the ld50 for lab rats is 12.000 ugs, its gonna be a fuck load bigger for humans
It doesn't necessarily work that way.
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(couldn't even begin to speculate).
You were speculating.
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would you like to show me the astounding research about any other deaths that prove the lethal dose in humans is 12,000 ugs?
Yes. Obviously I would. Or at least point to it.
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people ate over 300 mgs on tour with the dead and you would know this if you read chinacats threads like stated before.
300 milligrams? I don't believe it.
I suppose this means that the last quote is a type and you meant to say that "the lethal dose in humans is above 12000 micrograms"??
Personally, I don't believe much of chinacat's thread. It's full of mythology.
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don't be so butthurts because i returned the favor and gave you a bad rating
Do you really think this is about my ratings? Look at my ratings. I don't remember the last time I got above 2.8/5. One more person giving me a zero: big fucking deal. I don't give a fuck how you rate me.
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i asked you to back up your claim that lsd has a lethal dose.
I don't understand. You don't think it's possible to die from an LSD overdose, yet you cite a case of death by LSD overdose.
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you didn't back it up
What? That's it's possible to die from LSD? Why would I? You agree that it's possible to die from LSD.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Plasmid]
#9245991 - 11/14/08 07:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I never said that it was impossible not to die from LSD.
I said that in the one case of it the man dies from LSD causing his respiratory systems to fail.
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?A=ShowDocPartFrame&ID=1389&DocPartID=1151
here's the dose chart. their sources are at the bottom.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
it says that lethal dose killed 50% of tested animals which included lab rats and mice. i never speculated an amount as to where lsd overdose occurs, only that it is higher than 12,000 ugs because it would be a lot higher in humans. the proof in whether or not lsd's lethal dose is in the memoirs of chinacat and other followers of the dead tour involved in lsd crystal business. if you don't believe them then there's nothing i can do but say read the material.
youre a lazy piece shit ya know? how could you not find anything on the matter?
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9246021 - 11/14/08 07:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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publicenemy1 said: I said that in the one case of it the man dies from LSD causing his respiratory systems to fail.
That paper is titled: LSD Toxicity: A Suspected Cause of Death
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i never speculated an amount as to where lsd overdose occurs, only that it is higher than 12,000 ugs because it would be a lot higher in humans.
That's the speculation I was referring to. It doesn't necessarily work that way.
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the proof in whether or not lsd's lethal dose is in the memoirs of chinacat and other followers of the dead tour involved in lsd crystal business.
This sentence doesn't really make any sense. What are you trying to say? Re-read it, because it just doesn't make sense. It sounds like you're saying that chinacat's thread establishes whether or not LSD has a lethal dose, but I don't think that's what you mean.
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if you don't believe them then there's nothing i can do but say read the material.
I have read the material. How could I not believe something without having read it? I don't believe it. I don't believe it because I have read his threads. I think his threads are full of lots of mythology.
There no proof of anything in his threads. That's what I think.
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youre a lazy piece shit ya know? how could you not find anything on the matter?
I searched. I didn't find it. Maybe if you paid me more I'd do more work. Since when am I obligated to do exercises for you? I'm lazy? How do you know I didn't search for the paper because I wanted to go for a bike ride? You don't. Shut up.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Plasmid]
#9246040 - 11/14/08 08:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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well how come there's no more cases of lsd overdose that have established a lethal dose? the artical also states suspected cause. they didn't say it WAS the cause but suspected. my claim is that you die from failure respiratory systems, nothing more, nothing less.
to say people haven't taken over 12,000 ugs is absurd considering the lsd-crystal process and business. nothing has proven an lsd lethal dose thus far.
edit: and hey man, its been nice chatting with you but im done. i dont have time to deal with people who act like 8 year-olds in a debate.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9246257 - 11/14/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why aren't there more cases of an LSD fatal overdose? I suppose because not many people have taken fatal overdoses of LSD. If a typical dose is 50 micrograms and a fatal overdose is as low as 30 milligrams, you'd still 600 hits to overdose.
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to say people haven't taken over 12,000 ugs is absurd considering the lsd-crystal process and business.
I didn't say that. I said that claiming that a lethal dose of LSD is way above 12 mg in humans is speculation.
I can believe that people are stupid enough to do so. Just because a possible handful of people who have done so survived doesn't mean it's a good idea.
And I'll bet you know so much about the lsd-crystal business. What's an average dose, in milligrams and to five decimal points, of a thumbprint? You don't know. I doubt anyone who has supposedly taken a thumbprint bothered to wipe it off and weigh it, so, as far as I'm concerned, it's reasonable to speculate that one can probably survive multiple-milligram doses of LSD.
I think taking thumbprints is downright stupid.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: publicenemy1]
#9248888 - 11/15/08 12:10 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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publicenemy1 said: I never said that it was impossible not to die from LSD.
I said that in the one case of it the man dies from LSD causing his respiratory systems to fail.
http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?A=ShowDocPartFrame&ID=1389&DocPartID=1151
here's the dose chart. their sources are at the bottom.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
it says that lethal dose killed 50% of tested animals which included lab rats and mice. i never speculated an amount as to where lsd overdose occurs, only that it is higher than 12,000 ugs because it would be a lot higher in humans. the proof in whether or not lsd's lethal dose is in the memoirs of chinacat and other followers of the dead tour involved in lsd crystal business. if you don't believe them then there's nothing i can do but say read the material.
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in this link on erowid it says some contradictory stuff:
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predictions of the average lethal dose for humans have ranged from 0.2 mg/kg to more than 1 mg/kg, administered orally.
which means for humans it is ESTIMNATED that the LD 50 will be at a dose of 15 milligrams to 90 milligrams for an average adult human. this is between 500 to a thousand times the dose on a blotter.
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LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 12,000 ug
12 milligrams which is lower yet than the lowest estimate that they provided on a mg/kg basis.
note, they call it an ESTIMATE.
with psilocybin, a recreational dose is 10–50 mg, and the ld50 is around 280mg/kg or 4000-6000 mg. (taken from wikepedia)
although these are much higher amounts (at least 50 times higher than the lsd amounts to threashold or to die), the ratio for LD-50 is also pretty close to 500 to 1000 times the recreational dose.
ergo one might say these compounds are equally non-dangerous at realistically obtainable dosages. in any case, the recreational dosages for both psilocybin and LSD are radically lower by 3 orders of magnitude from something that might disrupt breathing or life.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#12331936 - 04/04/10 08:42 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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clemens said: Mushrooms make me trip way harder than LSD. What do you think?
Eat a ten strip!!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: drr]
#12332222 - 04/04/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hmm, this thread and the Shroomery in general have made me curious to try LSD. I've only done mushrooms, and only twice. The first time was a whole 1/8th, but purposely not that strong, and I ate it throughout increments but still had a nice, introspective peak. It was intensely euphoric and I felt great for weeks afterwords.
Now...the second time I got ahold of an eighth of some cubies, I wanted to really break through. So I lemon tekked the 3.5 dried grams, but I didn't have anything to grind the mushrooms with, so I cut them up as best as I could. But I still let them soak in pure lemon juice and then drank down the solid cup of lemon juice. It sucked but I didn't get sick, at least. Took two hours for the peak to hit but it hit all at once, especially right after I took 4-5 bong hits of some potent bud through a bong. The experience was intense. I lost reality and experienced everything at once...for a good four hours.
I haven't tried LSD, but I just strongly doubt that any substance can produce such an amazing experience again...it was just perfection. From the sound of this thread, I'd need an entire thumbprint for an LSD trip of that level, and that doesn't sound very safe. Also, expensive, I'm sure.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: SummerDaisies]
#12332250 - 04/04/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: drr]
#12332253 - 04/04/10 09:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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clemens said: Mushrooms make me trip way harder than LSD. What do you think?
Eat a ten strip!!
Dude, leave dead threads alone. Look at the dates before you post. This wasnt a bad thread to resurrect or anything, it's just that you brought it back to make a moot suggestion.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Trim]
#12332394 - 04/04/10 09:58 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whoooa!!!
Seriously though Im sorry, I could have sworn I found this on the main page. Must have been one of those ones that show up when your looking at a thread..you know how it can happen on accident? Well I feel like an idiot now good thing none of this actually matters!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: drr]
#12332516 - 04/04/10 10:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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drr said: Whoooa!!!
Seriously though Im sorry, I could have sworn I found this on the main page. Must have been one of those ones that show up when your looking at a thread..you know how it can happen on accident? Well I feel like an idiot now good thing none of this actually matters!
peace
Yeah, it's all good. This was a pretty interesting read. Just check out those dates next time brotha.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Trim]
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Generally for me, LSD is more intense than shrooms. Purely because it stimulates my mind so much. The rushing of thoughts, etc. Shrooms tend to be more relaxing for me.
However, the most intense 'moment' ive ever had out of the two drugs was on shrooms. I had eaten 7g of cubensis. I was lying in my bed, and literally my room was unrecognisable. Visually, it was the most intense experience i've ever had from shrooms or acid.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#12335355 - 04/05/10 12:49 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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clemens said: Mushrooms make me trip way harder than LSD. What do you think?
i think LSD causes me to trip way harder.
i experience the void with lsd. but i experience it involuntarily.
with mushrooms i am able to be comfortable.
lsd takes comfort away. and shows me things i never wanted to see.
i guess that is the beauty of it!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: pong]
#12335534 - 04/05/10 01:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lsd trips are about me. Mushroom trips are about the world. Thats as basic as i could possibly describe the differences for me.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Trim]
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drr said: Whoooa!!!
Seriously though Im sorry, I could have sworn I found this on the main page. Must have been one of those ones that show up when your looking at a thread..you know how it can happen on accident? Well I feel like an idiot now good thing none of this actually matters!
peace
Yeah, it's all good. This was a pretty interesting read. Just check out those dates next time brotha.
Do whatever the hell you want. Im glad you brought this one back. It's an internet forum. Dont let these tools pull you into these lame shroomery politics. A thread is a thread.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: CounterCulturest]
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i have just never really tripped very hard off real LSD
My friends would take 2 hits and trip for 12 hours and I would eat 3 and trip for 6 maybe and when I started to comedown I would be like, "thats it, its over?"
With mushrooms by the time im coming down im thinking, "thank god, I really thought I did it that time".
Never get that with real LSD
But I have taken DOB which was very similar to LSD for me but allowed me trip way harder
My few DOB trips made me realize why LSD is so awesome, even tho its not LSD, DOB is pretty damn similar
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#12374186 - 04/11/10 06:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you think mushrooms are better than LSD, then you clearly haven't dosed enough LSD.
But on the other hand, if you think LSD is better than mushrooms, you clearly haven't dosed enough mushrooms.
They're two different trips though. Mushrooms are a guided journey into your psyche. Great for meditation and going places you might not want to go. But those places teach you things you never could have known about yourself otherwise.
LSD is more of your own journey into your psyche. You can read your subconscious like a book, find out why you do the things you do, and actively work to change yourself for the better.
They're both incredible drugs, and are both infinitely valuable.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
#12374801 - 04/11/10 10:01 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would be like, "thats it, its over?"
I feel as though a mushroom trip is a journey while my acid trip was more just psychedelic effects behind what I was already doing. If I sat down and devoted some concentration to the acid, my mind could slip back. With mushrooms, the trip is very demanding and difficult to simply integrate into my plans/routines.
my acid trip didn't feel nearly as psychedelic and detached as "equivalent" doses of mushrooms have. Perhaps a stronger dose of acid must be in order for me in the future to gain deeper insight into the characteristics of these substances individually.
I like that this thread started a year ago Bold move Myk
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: Mykologist]
#12379731 - 04/12/10 05:11 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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I see people react a lot more to LSD then I do
I have had friends trip for hours and hours on two hits of acid and I would take 5 hits and not reach their level
On the other hand I react pretty normally to DOB and a DOB trip will take me farther then I wanted to go
different strokes for different folks
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
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clemens said: LSD produces less hallucinogenic effects for me. Every mushroom experience I have I feel like I am about to die. When I am on mushrooms I just want to comedown. LSD leaves me wanting more
havent had a big enough dose of LSD, keep trying.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: AntiEverything]
#12380455 - 04/12/10 07:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago) |
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With LSD I feel like I'm tripping.
With mushrooms, I'm all over the shop.
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
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i think you should TAKE SOME MORE!!!!!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: fungusamongus7]
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i think you should, READ THREAD DATES AND NOT BRING BACK DEAD ONES!
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Re: I am just going to say this, Mushrooms are more trippy than LSD [Re: clemens]
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clemens said: LSD produces less hallucinogenic effects for me. Every mushroom experience I have I feel like I am about to die. When I am on mushrooms I just want to comedown. LSD leaves me wanting more
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