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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Veritas]
    #9149596 - 10/28/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Veritas said:
I'm suspicious of romance, as well.  It seems to serve the same purpose as sawdust in the gas tank of a used car.




Does romance need to have a purpose?


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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149636 - 10/28/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Whether they label themselves "master" or not, it seems all-too-common to utilize the position of "spiritual teacher" in order to gain power over others.  Unless a teacher is oriented towards empowering their students, they are pursuing an imbalanced relationship.

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deCypher]
    #9149646 - 10/28/08 05:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

:lol:  That's really off-topic.  Maybe you could start another thread?

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149661 - 10/28/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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SyntheticMInd said:
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Middleman said:
There is a difference between worship and adoration. Yeah there are snakes in every field but the real deal is out there.




:thumbup:

http://www.modana.dhamma.org/about_vipassana/vipassana_meditation_video/




Thank you. Sometimes I feel ignored around here.

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Veritas]
    #9149660 - 10/28/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Whether they label themselves "master" or not, it seems all-too-common to utilize the position of "spiritual teacher" in order to gain power over others.




and all spiritual teachers are out to gain control over others?

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149691 - 10/28/08 05:34 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Did I say all?  I said that it was 'all-too-common.'  Someone who styles themself as being above everyone else & offers their services as a spiritual teacher is more likely to be a power-seeker than an empowerer.

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Lion]
    #9149693 - 10/28/08 05:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Lion said:
Why do you think this is?  Or is this not true?




Because we love to worship idols. Humans are quite primitive and superstitious you know.:D


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Icelander]
    #9149707 - 10/28/08 05:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Primitive compared to what? :tongue:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Lion]
    #9149729 - 10/28/08 05:39 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Kryptonians


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Veritas]
    #9149735 - 10/28/08 05:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Veritas said:
Did I say all?  I said that it was 'all-too-common.'  Someone who styles themself as being above everyone else & offers their services as a spiritual teacher is more likely to be a power-seeker than an empowerer.




i'm sure Lion was already aware of this :thumbup:

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149743 - 10/28/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

She doesn't know Lion like we do.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149750 - 10/28/08 05:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

romance is intoxicating
fama
fortuna
amore


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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deranger]
    #9149757 - 10/28/08 05:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Good, it pays to have a healthy amount of skepticism towards any "spiritual master."

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Veritas]
    #9149763 - 10/28/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Either that, or believe all spiritual masters equally.  Enough beliefs should cancel each other out that you'll be unspoiled by the end.


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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: Veritas]
    #9149769 - 10/28/08 05:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Veritas said:
Good, it pays to have a healthy amount of skepticism towards any "spiritual master."




righteousness

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Re: Why is it easier to meditate at the master's feet? [Re: deCypher]
    #9149779 - 10/28/08 05:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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The Cypher said:
Either that, or believe all spiritual masters equally.  Enough beliefs should cancel each other out that you'll be unspoiled by the end.




or don't believe any of them, do as they say and see if that works :lol:

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