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My Cheap and Easy Incubator
    #914910 - 09/28/02 03:28 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

My cat rosco coundn't seem to find a decent place to incubate his jars so he built an incubator himself. He told me that it might be helpful to the people on shroomery. Here's what he did:

He took a box that is appx. 15 inches long, 10 inches tall and 9 inches wide. He placed a heating pad without the cover inside the bottome of the box and placed a small layer of advertisement paper over the pad. He then placed the jars on top of the paper. With the box closed the temp stays at a consistent 80 degrees with the pad on high.

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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915128 - 09/28/02 05:04 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

The heating pad may dry out your jars, why not just buy a styrofoam cooler and a fish tank heater. You put the heater into a jar filled with water, place it in the cooler with your jars, then you turn on the heater. Just be sure to moniter temp. Its easy and pretty cheap, under $15.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915155 - 09/28/02 05:23 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I agree with the styrofoam cooler and fish tanker heater it works great!The heating pad will dry your jars out after awhile.With the jars in the cooler and fish tank heater your jars will colonize in about 3 weeks. :-)


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: mushman76]
    #915162 - 09/28/02 05:27 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

so the heat pad is a bad idea? I can't get a hold of a fish tank heater right now. I do have some paper beneath the jars and it's barely warm underneath them..comfortable heat. Can I just get a fish tank heater at Kmart or a pet store?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915167 - 09/28/02 05:29 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Where are you getting your aquarium heaters for less than 15 bux? I haven't found one yet for less than 29.99

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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915221 - 09/28/02 05:48 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

You can get a tank heater for 13 bucks at petsmart. I think I've also seen them at wal mart.You need a 50 watt or 75 watt .Good Luck with your grow.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: SwondPooping]
    #915240 - 09/28/02 05:54 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Pet smart, I think I paid $12 for a TOP FIN, 50 watt 8". I'd recomend a little smaller though since I had to use a fish bowl instead of a jar.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915287 - 09/28/02 06:18 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I got one just a minute ago at a local pet shop for $10. Now I just have to make an incubator. I do have an aquarium, some boxes..do I just put the heater on the bottom and put the jars around it or what? Can I just make one similar to the pf tek style one I saw w/o the plastic containers? Any help is appreciated.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915306 - 09/28/02 06:25 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Alright here's what my buddy did. He took his heater and just put it in the fish bowl so the water was above the line (if you look on the heater, there will be a line that the water can not go below) with out plugging in the heater. Left it for 15 min, as directed. Then he put the bowl and heater into cooler with theremometer and turned on heater. After a constant temp of 85 F was reached he placed his jars in the cooler. Thats it.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915314 - 09/28/02 06:29 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

okay..right now it's just at the bottom of the aquarium heating up. where in the aquarium should I place it when it gets to around 80-82 degrees? I know this will sound stupid, but I'm not using any water so can I just place the heater on the side or the bottom of the aquarium?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915322 - 09/28/02 06:33 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

If its an aquarium heater, you need to use water, thats why it has the line on it that the water can't be below. You'll break it if you do not put it into water.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915327 - 09/28/02 06:37 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Okay..so just fill my aquarium up with water, put the heater in, let it warm up to desired temp....then what? After I have it where I want it temp. wise, I can just start using it? I'm a newbie to this stuff


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915328 - 09/28/02 06:37 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Okay..so just fill my aquarium up with water, put the heater in, let it warm up to desired temp....then what? After I have it where I want it temp. wise, I can just start using it? I'm a newbie to this stuff


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915344 - 09/28/02 06:45 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

okay..so after reading the back of the box i have a better idea of what to do I just need to make sure it's right. Here's my plant..Fill up my aquarium with water and place the heater inside it as directed with the water level above the line on heater..let it adjust to water temp then turn it on and let it run for 1 hr. After all that's done can I just place it inside whatever I'm going to use for an incubator?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915354 - 09/28/02 06:47 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Ok, I think you may be on the wrong track. All you need is the heater to be in some water. A quart jar is good, if your heater fits in there. Mine didn't, it was too tall so I had to use a fish bowl, (like for Gold fish). The heater heats up the water which gives off heat, heating up the air, the same air that your jars are in, thus heating up your jars.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915363 - 09/28/02 06:51 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Okay, cool..I get what your saying. Will a glass work to get the heater going?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915374 - 09/28/02 06:55 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

IF the water is above the line, a glass will work fine. hehehehe nice ryhme.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915380 - 09/28/02 06:57 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

A half gallon or quart juice bottle will be alright (glass) GL


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915382 - 09/28/02 06:58 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

okay, cool..that was a good rhyme. It's in a clear plastic cup right now with the water above the line. So after it's in there for 15 minutes do I need to turn it on and set the temp?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915386 - 09/28/02 07:01 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah after 15 min, plug in and turn on. My buddy put his into the cooler, without the jars, and adjusted till good temp was constant, then added the jars.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915397 - 09/28/02 07:07 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

sweetness...so after it's done adjusting, where is the best place to put the heater in whatever I'm using as an incubator?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915404 - 09/28/02 07:10 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

If you take a cooler and divide it in half (in your mind) the fishbowl is on one half and the jars are on the other.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915410 - 09/28/02 07:12 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

okay..so I have to keep the heater in the cup and put it in the aquarium I'm using then turn on the heater? I do have a thermometer but I"m not sure how to get the temp. accurately measured..just put it next to the heater maybe? I do get what you're saying about splitting the box in half though.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915413 - 09/28/02 07:12 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Is the water line on aquarium heaters always a minimum level or is that a maximum level???


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: socratesmind]
    #915417 - 09/28/02 07:15 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I think that's the minimum level that the water should be at..you're supposed to put the water above the line though.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: socratesmind]
    #915419 - 09/28/02 07:17 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Its a minimum


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915428 - 09/28/02 07:23 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

right on..I've got my heater heating up and the thermometer in there..I'm not sure how warm it will get, but I know how to adjust the temp. so it should work. so when it gets to 80 or so and I want to set it up in the incubator, I can't just take it out of the cup and put it at the bottom of the aquarium right? Do I have to leave it in the cup with water or what? That's the only part i'm a little confused about now.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915437 - 09/28/02 07:26 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

ilikeshrooms, you seem to be missing the point that the heater must ALWAYS be submerged in water. Trying to run it without it in water will probably break it.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: StS]
    #915443 - 09/28/02 07:30 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

alright, so it has to always be submerbed in water...when it gets where I want it I'll just place it inside my aquarium with the jars and let it do its thing then and I should be okay?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915446 - 09/28/02 07:31 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

StS has got it, the heater needs to be in water. Just put the cup with the water and heater in the incubation chamber, get the constant desired temp, and then add the jars.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915450 - 09/28/02 07:34 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

thanks for all your help skikid and sts. sorry if I annoyed the crap outta you with all the questions. alright, now I just have to be patient.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915473 - 09/28/02 07:46 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

No problem, Yeah patients is more than a virtue in this hobby, its a necessity. Just keep it up and if you have anymore questions, you can PM me if need be.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915693 - 09/28/02 10:12 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

Hey, just wanted to tell you (skikid16) that the incubator is working great! Once I got the temp. down to 80 I left it...it was getting up over 100 and I had to lower the setting on the dial. It's all good now and the jars are in there. I'm going to check back later this week..maybe Wednesday or Thursday to see if they have started colonizing. Thank you so much for all the help, it was and still is greatly apprectiated. peace out


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915712 - 09/28/02 10:18 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

heh, actually..I just went and checked on it and the temp. seems to have dropped a bit to the mid 60's..I've turned the dial up on the heater to warm up the water in hopes this will raise the temperature of the incubator to a comfy 80 degrees. This should help the temp. in there..I'll just have to tinker with it a bit.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915888 - 09/28/02 11:23 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

keeping it around 80 is good 86 for optimal

I always liked anno's incubator design as well


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ObiWanKenobi]
    #915969 - 09/28/02 11:56 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I finally got the temp back up to 80..it's stayed there for about 30 mintues now..I could turn the heater up a little but that seems to increase the humiditiy quite a bit. Is it ok if there is some humidity in the incubator?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #915972 - 09/28/02 11:56 PM (19 years, 2 days ago)

yeah, it shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: Skikid16]
    #915996 - 09/29/02 12:18 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I've got it up to 82 now..not sure if I want it to get up to 86 or not. I know it's the optimal temp. for colinization but correct me if I'm wrong by saying that if it's 82 in the incubator won't it be a few degrees warmer in the jars? so if it's 86 is the air temp in the incubator won't it be close to or even over 90 in the jars?


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #916009 - 09/29/02 12:28 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

my buddy sprays his incubator down with lysol..just as a precaution


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: StainItBlue]
    #916016 - 09/29/02 12:30 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

he also adds hydrogen peroxide to the water..


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: StainItBlue]
    #916031 - 09/29/02 12:38 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

I cleaned my aquarium down today again before I put the jars inside of it with lysol disinfectant wipes. before that i took a clean washcloth that I warmed under some fairly hot water and cleaned it down. I think that did a pretty good job of cleaning and sterilizing it. I don't have any hydrogen peroxide on hand other wise I would've used it on the aquarium. Good tips though for sure. I'm just adjusting the temp. right now..it's slowly climbing up to the optimal 86 degree mark..right now it's at 84.5


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: ilikeshrooms]
    #916040 - 09/29/02 12:45 AM (19 years, 2 days ago)

ive heard those lysol wipes are a ripoff..alcohol is cheaper and does the same thing...youll wanna get hydrogen peroxide for fruiting...to help with contams if your using perlite for humidifying your terrarium..good luck with your grow my buddy is at the same stage you are


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Re: My Cheap and Easy Incubator [Re: StainItBlue]
    #916523 - 09/29/02 09:56 AM (19 years, 1 day ago)

my cat'sincubator is working great now..he told me the temp. was down to 81 when he went to bed and it's back up to 84 now. that little aquarium heater works great he says.he didn't check for any mycelium growth so I don't know if the spores have germinated...I'm guessing he will see something on Thursday, maybe before, but Thursday is when he will inspect them for mycelium again. Othe than that, he's just leaving it alone the rest of the time..except for the daily temp. checks.


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