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OfflineLordMorham
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Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq
    #914780 - 09/28/02 02:13 PM (19 years, 4 minutes ago)

15 Kilos of Uranium were siezed 150 miles from the border of Iraq


Gee.... all you people that say Iraq is no threat... what do you think now?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #914794 - 09/28/02 02:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well first off, I say lets see a source.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #914803 - 09/28/02 02:25 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)



The story is brand new...


It'll be all over the place in a few minutes


I'll post a link as soon as there is a link to post


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #914823 - 09/28/02 02:36 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

150 miles from the border of Iraq? That really doesn't tell us anything. What country was it in, who had possesion of it. What kind of delivery system do the Iraqis have, Scuds?

Iraq poses no threat to the U.S., they may pose a threat to Isreal, but Isreal can kick their ass. The U.S. government's own policies are creating enemies the world over. Our problems will not go away if we topple Saddam Hussein, the course the Bush administration is taking will do nothing but provide the seeds of more anger, resentment and terrorism. Heed the words of Washington and Jefferson, no entangling alliances, no permanent alliances, peaceful commerce with all. A republic, not an empire, not a world policeman.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #914824 - 09/28/02 02:36 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

So what makes you so special that you heard it before everyone else in the world?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #914826 - 09/28/02 02:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: ]
    #914828 - 09/28/02 02:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Well said.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #914830 - 09/28/02 02:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)


I have a buddy that's privy to this sort of shit


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #914842 - 09/28/02 02:45 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

So its hearsay then.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: ]
    #914854 - 09/28/02 02:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

Iraq poses no threat to the U.S., they may pose a threat to Isreal, but Isreal can kick their ass. The U.S. government's own policies are creating enemies the world over. Our problems will not go away if we topple Saddam Hussein, the course the Bush administration is taking will do nothing but provide the seeds of more anger, resentment and terrorism. Heed the words of Washington and Jefferson, no entangling alliances, no permanent alliances, peaceful commerce with all. A republic, not an empire, not a world policeman.





The terrible danger is that, once in possession of nuclear weapons, Saddam will take this as a license to invade Kuwait, and otherwise terrorize the Middle East. The real danger from Saddam's possession of nuclear weapons is the conviction they will create in Saddam that he can act with impunity in the region, safe in the knowledge that the U.S. or Israel will not dare attack him (for fear of risking nuclear annihilation of their troops).

The frightening scenario, in which Saddam could seize Kuwait and threaten to nuke the Saudi oil fields if we attack, is something I've never seen publicly discussed. But the scenario is all too realistic. A nuclear-armed Saddam taking over Kuwait and threatening Saudi Arabia leaves us with a choice between ceding him control of the world's oil supply, or of seeing that supply destroyed and contaminated for decades by a nuclear strike, sending the world's economy into radical shock, perhaps for years.

You might not believe that Saddam Hussein would dare to contemplate such an action, given all the attention now focused on him. I wager Saddam,"is generally not deterred by the threat of sustaining severe damage. Instead, he has a tendency to invent outlandish scenarios that allow him to do whatever it is he wants to do, no matter how dangerous, Again, these generalization become real if you think abou it. For example, even though Iran had again and again demonstrated its superior ability to harm Iraq with retaliatory missile strikes, Saddam nonetheless repeatedly ordered air and missile strikes against Iranian cities. This was a clear breakdown of ordinary "rational" deterrence.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #914860 - 09/28/02 02:51 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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So its hearsay then.




Look up a couple posts

I posted a link



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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915019 - 09/28/02 04:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

So what?...there is absolutely no proof that Iraq is even involved. The only way Iraq was mentioned was in it's relative distance from where it happend...more propaganda bullshit.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Rono]
    #915027 - 09/28/02 04:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)



That remains to be seen.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #915195 - 09/28/02 05:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Don't blame me. I voted Democrat.




That alone is reason enough to blame you.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915270 - 09/28/02 06:05 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

15 Kilos of Uranium were siezed 150 miles from the border of Iraq

The driver later said "Dude, these american guys told me they'd give me 50 bucks to drive it here.."


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: I_Fart_Blue]
    #915333 - 09/28/02 06:39 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I blame you because you voted democrat.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #915353 - 09/28/02 06:47 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I blame the Republicans that started funding these terrorist's operations under the Reagan era- EX: Russia's invasion of Afghanistan.

Dont blame the democrats! They didnt start arming and training these nuts in modern warfare.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915368 - 09/28/02 06:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm glad you agree Saddam is a terrorist. Now we must treat him as such and make an example of him.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #915387 - 09/28/02 07:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I say we send the Republican's greatest spy agent in to do the dirty work:

Olie North.
(I'm sure he can handle it). :smirk:

 


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915390 - 09/28/02 07:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

I blame the Republicans that started funding these terrorist's operations under the Reagan era- EX: Russia's invasion of Afghanistan.





So, let's see....

We help to defend Afghanistan from Russion invasion.

This was a bad thing?



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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915393 - 09/28/02 07:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Like, Im thinking yes.

Let other countrys fight there own wars.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915411 - 09/28/02 07:12 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

Like, Im thinking yes.

Let other countrys fight there own wars.




In that case Canada needs to start spending some money on their military.

Their 1800 troups couldn't defeat a cruise ship filled with bloated pink skinned floridian retiries armed with nothing but the golf clubs they habitually carry with them. All of the social success of Canada can be attributed to the fact that we protect them. You wanna continue to fly the Maple Leaf? Then spend some cash on your OWN protection!


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915414 - 09/28/02 07:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

RE: "In that case Canada needs to start spending some money on their military.

Their 1800 troups couldn't defeat a cruise ship filled with bloated pink skinned floridian retiries armed with nothing but the golf clubs they habitually carry with them. All of the social success of Canada can be attributed to the fact that we protect them. You wanna continue to fly the Maple Leaf? Then spend some cash on your OWN protection!"




What do I care what happens to Canada?

I live in Kentucky.  :smirk:


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915429 - 09/28/02 07:23 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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What do I care what happens to Canada?




Careful your ignorance is showing



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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915431 - 09/28/02 07:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

ME???????


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915434 - 09/28/02 07:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

ME???????




Yep!


I don't eally need to tell you why we can't let Canada be invaded do I?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915435 - 09/28/02 07:26 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"In that case Canada needs to start spending some money on their military."

Why should they when their next door neighbor is a marine that patrols his property and theirs with a howitzer? Canada is reliant on the US to defend their territories. It would be a waste and take away from their socialist programs...


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #915444 - 09/28/02 07:30 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Your losing me here...

One can clearly see that I openly admit to living in Kentucky-USA- Yet you thought I was in Canada....

THEN you site my ignorance... hmm

Also do you wish to complain about spending money defending Canada, or do you wish to endorse it?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915457 - 09/28/02 07:38 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I condone our policy of protecting Canada. Canada is on our northern border and their territory is of great strategic importance to us. We tell Canada what their defense strategy will be, we don't ask them because we provide it. We are it. And for our plans for interceptor missles to shoot down nuclear missles we will need to be able to shoot over Canada to detenate the missles over Canada rather than in the US in case of a Russian launch.  :grin:


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915466 - 09/28/02 07:44 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Your losing me here...

One can clearly see that I openly admit to living in Kentucky-USA- Yet you thought I was in Canada....

THEN you site my ignorance... hmm

Also do you wish to complain about spending money defending Canada, or do you wish to endorse it?




I was only trying to prove a point. The strategic importance of Canada is without question to all that still have several functioning brain cells. Yet the strategic importance of other places around the world are a little more obscure. Afghanistan is one of those places.


Now Kentucky...hmmm maybe we can quit defending it. j/k



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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #915695 - 09/28/02 10:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

RE: "And for our plans for interceptor missles to shoot down nuclear missles we will need to be able to shoot over Canada to detenate the missles over Canada rather than in the US in case of a Russian launch."


LOL!!!!!

Lets make it clear that you are kidding around, now.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Jammer]
    #915802 - 09/28/02 10:49 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

The USA and Canada are very different nations with radically different political philosophies. In the US we left the crown by reolution and force of arms in 1776. The Canadians left the crown by polite request of the British government in the 1960's. To the British Commonwealth, Canada was kind of like the 28 year old son that still lived in the basement and was afraid to go out on their own.

Canada is a weak nation. Their entire military is composed of about 45,000 personal, about half active, half reserve. They would be lucky to scrape together enough soldiers to have a divisional exercise. They have chosen to rely on the US for their defence strategy so that they can use the money they save from not investing in weapons systems on their socialist cradle to the grave programs such as the child stipend, health care (a disaser in itself), school, and farms, etcetera. They have chosen to sacrifice security for comfort, knowing that they can rely on us. In doing so they have been forced to make compromises. Those compromises all increase our security here in America, such as military access to their territories and lands in emergency defence situations.

Think of it like this... You live next door to a an ex-marine that patrols his propery and your around the clock with an M-16. You can feels fairly safe with your BB gun because you know that you're being protected by an armed, strong man.

That is the synopsis of the Canadian attitude. Their compromises are obvious and great... there's a few problems with it. At least there is if I'm the one patrolling:

1) Neighbor, why you crying for help now? I warned your butt in plenty of time. Where's your defenses?

2) You had the opportunity to prepare. You want help now? Fine,
my help and my price. It's steep. If you want my help now I'm taking perpetual control of X amount of your resources to pay for it now and in the future. Your choice. Choose. Now.

3) You don't agree? Fine. Just be aware that your house limits the defense of my house from my property. I might have to raze it to create a fire zone from MY house. That's not fair? You're right. Neither is life. Get over it. You made choices that have consequences. The consequences have arrived.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #916210 - 09/29/02 03:33 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Raze the house of Canada to create a buffer zone from who the terrorists at the north pole

Or do you guys still not trust the Russians?





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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: carbonhoots]
    #916213 - 09/29/02 03:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

GET OVER IT !! RAZING !!

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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #916322 - 09/29/02 05:29 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Although I will be the first to admit that Canada's military is far from what the U.S. is...We did have the largest Peace Keeping force in the world up until 1997. The U.S does protect Canada without a doubt, but don't forget we are also a member of the Commonwealth..in other words we have the U.K., Austrailia etc to back us up as well. (And realistically, what country wouldn't defend Canada?..we have NO enemies) anyways I'm just saying we can pull our our weight in other matters...


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Rono]
    #916790 - 09/29/02 02:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe this only makes sense to me but...

Who does Canada have to defend itself from? besides protecting boarders for customs and immigrations, who could possibly be a serious threat to Canada?

Are countries going to send troops and tanks over the atlantic and pacific to attack Canada? No. Not a chance.

Canada does not keep military bases across the globe, and our forces are usually at home or on peacekeeping missions. Nobody has beef with Canada.

Terrorists? I have never heard of foreign terrorists threatening Canadians from abroad, or threatening our presence in their countries.

So who? Why do we need more tanks, jets, and soldiers? Sure American's COULD (if there was a war going on) defend us, but by no means are they defending us from any potential dangers today.

The size of our military is directly related to our relationship with the rest of the world, when you have alot of friends and no enemies, you dont need any guns.

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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Ir [Re: LordMorham]
    #916959 - 09/29/02 04:24 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Fortunately, now someone discovered the "Tara" button on their scale and are saying it's about 140 grams of Uranium, possibly even just ten. Enough to boil some pasta, I am sure.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: foghorn]
    #917117 - 09/29/02 05:51 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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Who does Canada have to defend itself from? besides protecting boarders for customs and immigrations, who could possibly be a serious threat to Canada?




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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: LordMorham]
    #917288 - 09/29/02 06:57 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Perhaps you would be so kind as point out which country is a threat to Canada?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Rono]
    #917635 - 09/29/02 09:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say just about all countries that hate the US. You don't think that if one of them unleashes either a nuke or biological weapon that the effects will stop at the border do you?


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Rono]
    #917837 - 09/29/02 11:10 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Re: We did have the largest Peace Keeping force in the world up until 1997.

I'm aware of that. The Canadian military won the Nobel Peace Prize for crying out loud. You know it's an ineffective fighting force when they win a peace prize...


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #918445 - 09/30/02 02:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

sure fallout or biological crud can devestate canadians, but the fact remains that they were not aiming at us

if the united states goes around pissing people off, why should canadians also have to carry the responsibility? it is unfortunate that we have to (and we do) owe gratitude to the united states, since they are the ones putting us in any danger.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #919071 - 09/30/02 10:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm aware of that. The Canadian military won the Nobel Peace Prize for crying out loud. You know it's an ineffective fighting force when they win a peace prize...


Ineffective? Um...maybe you don't understand the concept of a "peace" keeping force...they aren't there to kill people...hence the name "PEACE" keeping.


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Re: Weapons Grade Uranium siezed 150 miles from Iraq [Re: Rono]
    #921190 - 09/30/02 09:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

This is the same thing that many NATO member nations have done as well. Rely on the US so that they can spend their money on social programs instead of their own defense. Then some of they bad mouth us when we use our forces to defend our strategic interests around the world. It strikes me as being both hipocritical and parasitical.


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