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David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton...)
    #9123171 - 10/23/08 07:44 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=411&Itemid=70

I love this man.

I'm particularly interested in the material towards the end regarding the Rothschild family's involvement in political corruption, both in the UK and in the US.

It seems that even the mainstream media outlets are starting to open up to the idea of monetary influence controlling the political systems.

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UPDATE SAME DAY: ROTHSCHILDS ALSO BEING EXPOSED

After we went to press, a quick read of the day’s news reveals that even as we’re watching the "controlled demolition of the New World Order," we’re seeing an unprecedented firestorm of conspiracy and scandal erupting around their European rivals, the Rothschilds.

Since this is the first we’ve heard of the scandal, it’s not entirely clear what’s going on. On first blush it appears the Rothschilds were instrumental in soliciting a large (and illegal) 50,000 pound donation to help manipulate the British elections, from a Russian tycoon named Oleg Deripaska.

Now Prime Minister Brown (a likely Rockefeller / NWO ally) has bravely turned against the Rothschilds and is ordering a full investigation into "Yachtgate" — and Nathaniel Rothschild is threatening to ‘destroy’ anyone who tries to stop him.

If this reminds you of the Bavarian government’s actions to take down the Illuminati in the 1700s, after Jacob Lanze was struck dead with a lightning bolt with incriminating documents in his jacket pocket, then you’re on the right track:

    George Osborne Warned: “Stop Rubbishing” Rothschild Or You’re Finished

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/georgeosborne/3244297/George-Osborne-warned-stop-rubbishing-Rothschild-or-youre-finished.html

    Nathaniel Rothschild: Solid Financier Reverted to Type?

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4996488.ece

    Rothschild Threatens to “Destroy” Osbourne

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1079169/Osborne-criticised-David-Davis-Corfu-meeting-Mandelson.html



The majority of the alternative / conspiracy media who have bothered to pay attention to our message have continued worshipping the negative elite by giving them this air of impenetrable menace.

Our prophecies are coming true as you’re watching the key players in the whole problem being exposed and brought down right in front of your very eyes.

This next article exposes the underlying conspiracy even more aggressively. This is MAINSTREAM MEDIA! The whole thing is breaking wide open, in real time, right as we speak. The article clearly shows how the Rothschilds financed Hillary Clinton AND McCain, but are NOT supporting Obama.

Now that the world financial system has reached a peak point of instability, the mainstream media is finally growing a backbone and talking openly about what anyone and everyone on the Internet already knows.

Do you REALLY think the Rothschilds could pull off "The Revealing" at this point and take over the world’s financial systems in the wake of this degree of exposure? Especially considering that their own businesses — and bottom line — have been eaten alive by these same changes?



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You should definitely check this out. The interconnectedness of the problem, and the need for a real solution, is right out there in the open now (emphasis added):

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/the-rothschilds-and-their-200-years-of-political-influence-969772.html

    Nat Rothschild, the financier at the centre of allegations that threaten to engulf the shadow Chancellor, George Osborne, is no stranger to laws which forbid politicians from accepting donations from abroad.

    Political donations from overseas are also illegal in the US, where John McCain’s campaign team is under investigation for allegedly accepting a benefit in kind from two mega-rich British citizens, namely Nat Rothschild and his father, Jacob, the Fourth Baron Rothschild.

    In April, Mr McCain passed through London and spoke at a fund-raising dinner for expatriate Americans, where seats at the cheapest tables cost £500 a head. What caught the eye of Judicial Watch, a Washington-based foundation dedicated to combating corruption, was that the event was held "by kind permission of Lord Rothschild and Hon Nathaniel Rothschild" at the family home in Spencer House, St James’s, the only privately owned 17th-century palace in central London.

    The US Federal Election Committee is still investigating the allegation that Mr McCain’s campaign team broke electoral law by accepting a benefit in kind from the Rothschilds. "We haven’t heard from the FEC yet, and don’t expect to until after the campaign," Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch said.

    The Rothschild family and politics have been intertwined for generations, ever since Nathan Rothschild, who founded the English branch of the family business, financed Britain’s war against Napoleon two centuries ago. Nathan was the son of Mayer Rothschild, who founded the family business in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt during the 18th century.

    Serena Rothschild, Nat Rothschild’s mother, was one of the largest individual donors to the Conservative Party last year. She gave £190,000. She has also helped fund Mr Osborne’s office.

    When another member of the clan, Sir Evelyn de Rothschild, married the New York businesswoman Lynn Forester, they spent the night of their wedding dinner in the White House as guests of Bill Clinton.

    Lady Rothschild was a fund-raiser for the Democrats, but defected to the McCain camp after her friend Hillary Clinton was beaten to the nomination by Barack Obama.

    So it is nothing new for a Rothschild to be mixing with prominent politicians – but generally they do it in a way that does not invite unnecessary publicity. What is unusual about Nat Rothschild’s sudden intervention in the affair of the oligarch and the Corfu yacht is the way he has placed himself centre stage.

    His presumed motive is anger at Mr Osborne’s bad manners in passing on what Peter Mandelson had said about Gordon Brown, when Lord Mandelson, Mr Osborne, and Mr Rothschild were guests of the Russian aluminium tycoon Oleg Deripaska.



We should definitely "love our enemies"… and at the same time not be afraid to celebrate as we watch these aeon-defining historical changes unfolding in real time!

I’m psyched. It feels good to be right about something so important. The crop formations we’ve written about in parts 1-4 of "2012 Politics" would not have so blatantly and repeatedly given prophecy dates this year were we not in the midst of truly revolutionary — and very positive — change. More will be revealed!




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Re: David Wilcock's latest... [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9123405 - 10/23/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

This Deripaska is a real character.  Here's some more info:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/21/mandelson-oleg-deripaska

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The heady mix of a Russian billionaire worth an estimated £16.8bn; Lord Mandelson, a prominent EU Labour commissioner now back in Britain as a leading cabinet minister; George Osborne, the shadow chancellor; Rupert Murdoch, the worldwide media magnate; and Nathaniel Rothschild, scion of one of the world's wealthiest banking families, all on the same deck is breathtaking.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/22/features-comment-julian-glover

http://crooksandliars.com/cernig/mccains-lobbyists-and-his-judgement

http://www.economist.com/agenda/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11481771&fsrc=RSS


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Re: David Wilcock's latest... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #9123483 - 10/23/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

:werd: I'll check those out, thanks.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9123539 - 10/23/08 08:44 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Here's another one.  McCain talks some shit about Russia and Putin regarding Georgia but then has had secret meetings with a Russian billionare with close ties to Putin?

Supposedly McCain lobbied for Deripaska's visa to get into the US to meet with some people and "make connections".  But then had the visa revoked within days of his departure.  Hmmmm....

What the hell is going on!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/24/AR2008012403383.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008012500226

Here's a huge article in The Nation about it.  Including actress Anne Hathaway and her recently imprisoned ex-boyfriend.  :smile:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081020/ames_berman



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Deripaska understands that success in Russia today comes from a mixture of brute force, political influence and personal connections. In 2001, about a year after Putin signed a decree granting legal immunity to Yeltsin's family, Deripaska married Yeltsin's granddaughter, thereby cementing his own immunity and power. Throughout Putin's reign, Deripaska has adhered to an unwritten understanding between Putin and the oligarchs: as long as they support the Kremlin, they can operate with impunity. Deripaska has thus taken on numerous projects dear to Putin, such as building a new airport in Sochi for the 2014 Olympics and buying out Tajikistan's aluminum plant to help Putin reassert control over that key ex-Soviet republic. Deripaska openly admits that his RusAl holdings are subservient to the Kremlin's wishes, telling the Financial Times last year, "If the state says we need to give it up, we'll give it up."

Yet Deripaska faced a serious obstacle to his business ambitions, hampering his duties as a Putin surrogate. Because of numerous accusations of involvement in death threats, extortion, racketeering and money laundering, he had been barred from entering America since 1998. Putin has lobbied for Deripaska's US visa. In an interview with Le Monde earlier this year, Putin complained, "I have asked my American colleagues why. If you have reasons for not delivering him a visa, if you have documents on illegal activities, give us them.... They give us nothing, explain to us nothing, and forbid him from entry."

The visa ban was costing Deripaska billions: for years he and fellow RusAl shareholders had sought to cash in their wealth by launching an IPO in London, which could have netted up to $10 billion for RusAl's owners. However, finding institutional buyers would be difficult if not impossible as long as RusAl's primary owner was barred from entering the United States.

Despite rampant Russophobia among Republicans, Deripaska turned to powerful GOP figures to solve his problem--especially to Republicans connected with McCain. In 2003 Deripaska hired former presidential candidate Bob Dole, who had nearly picked McCain as his running mate, and Dole's lobbying partner Bruce Jackson (also a McCain aide) to lobby the State Department to overturn the visa ban, according to Glenn Simpson and Mary Jacoby of the Wall Street Journal. Over the next few years Dole's firm, Alston & Bird, was paid more than $500,000 to push for Deripaska's visa.

Deripaska also reached out to a Washington-based intelligence firm, Diligence, chaired by GOP foreign policy hand Richard Burt, McCain's top foreign policy adviser in 2000 and an adviser in '08 (Burt left Diligence in 2007 to join Henry Kissinger's consulting firm). Deripaska's business partner in London, Nathaniel Rothschild, an heir to the English Rothschild fortune, bought a stake in Diligence, according to the New York Times and confirmed by a Rothschild spokesman. The firm offered Deripaska many useful services: corporate intelligence gathering, visa lobbying through considerable GOP connections and, crucially, help in obtaining a $150 million World Bank/European Bank for Reconstruction and Development loan for a Deripaska subsidiary, the Komi Aluminum Project. Getting the loan was useful in providing a layer of comfort to Western investors skittish about RusAl. So Diligence, now partly owned by Rothschild, provided a "due diligence" report to the World Bank, which the Bank then used to approve its loan to Deripaska.

Not surprisingly, the lobbying worked: in December 2005 Deripaska was issued a multientry US visa, according to the State Department. During his brief stay he signed his World Bank loan, spoke at a Carnegie Endowment meeting and attended a dinner for Harvard University's Belfer Center, where, thanks to a generous donation, he became a member of its international council.

However, Deripaska's trip did not end well. Under the visa's terms, he was forced to endure lengthy FBI questioning. According to the mining-industry newsletter Mineweb, the list of his enemies had grown from jilted former business partners to the heads of powerful US metals companies and government officials unhappy with RusAl's control of key Third World bauxite mines, which threatened beleaguered US aluminum giants. The interview went badly--according to people who know him, Deripaska had little patience for prying bureaucrats. When he left the country, the visa ban was reinstated. Once again Deripaska turned to powerful Republicans--this time, to McCain and campaign manager Davis, who arranged the January 2006 Davos introduction. The McCain campaign later claimed that "any contact between Mr. Deripaska and the senator was social and incidental," but afterward Deripaska thanked Davis for arranging "such an intimate setting." The Washington Post reported that Davis was "seeking to do business with the billionaire." Indeed, Deripaska's subsequent thank-you letter mentioned his possible investment in a metals company Davis represented through a hedge-fund client.




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Re: David Wilcock's latest... [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #9123571 - 10/23/08 08:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Haha... it's all coming apart at the seams. :evil:

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9124071 - 10/23/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, as a rock solid heterosexual, I can say that I love that guy too.  He has become my primary source on 'the path'.  Every word from his mouth or pen resonates with me to a point nearing perfection.  His latest audio blog, which was part of that article, was a lot of repeat stuff but I look forward to part 2.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Scratcher]
    #9125188 - 10/24/08 04:45 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, me too man, me too. He's definitely on the right track.

I agree that there was a lot of repetition in the latest audio blog entry, but it still had some good material. And like you, I also look forward to part 2. :smile:

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9125193 - 10/24/08 04:53 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Yep,
Theres nothing paranormal about it.

A true democracy can't be based on money.

The wealthy people sponsoring the parties that get into power.  Its ridiculous for us to believe that we have a democracy.  Wealthy people paying for political campaigns is the very definition of the word corruption.

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Corruption
1 a: impairment of integrity, virtue, or moral principle : depravity b: decay , decomposition c: inducement to wrong by improper or unlawful means (as bribery) d: a departure from the original or from what is pure or correct




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Democracy
1 a: government by the people ; especially : rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2: a political unit that has a democratic government
3capitalized : the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States <from emancipation Republicanism to New Deal Democracy — C. M. Roberts>
4: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
5: the absence of hereditary or arbitrary class distinctions or privileges




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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Ego Death]
    #9125204 - 10/24/08 05:00 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Indeed. But now it is coming into the public eye, and the system is starting to break down. The internet has given us all a way to tap into a vast amount of knowledge, and has opened up a new branch of interpesronal media that cirumvents the warped 'main media.'

Interestingly enough, the Rothschilds seem to have supported both the Clintons, but not Obama. They shifted from Democratic support to Republican support when Hillary lost the democratic nod. This gives me some hope for Obama as a potential source of change.

I get a good read from Obama. He seems calm and collected. I'm not saying he's "the man" or anything--he's still a politician--but he does show that he usually has a calm and cool head, which is more than I can say about most politicians. This gives me some hope.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9125607 - 10/24/08 08:53 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

You don't think the mentality of the world that is crumbling will not hold on to some vestige of power and attempt to eliminate this person who represents this change?  I think Obama's message of "Change" is more powerful that the majority of people are realizing.

Sure you can't destroy something like the internet.  Way too powerful and too many people have their hands in it.  But removing one guy who represents this change which a lot of people want is pretty easy...


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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #9125621 - 10/24/08 08:59 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Nturally, it is a concern.

However, I believe that figureheads are only so relevant, and it is the awareness of the people that is really changing here.

You're right about not being able to destroy something like the internet. And that is where the real power lies--in the intersocial medium. Web 2.0 is more powerful than it might first seem.

I don't think that elimination of Obama (whether that be politically or physically) can sway the awakening process off course.

Our thoughts create the reality within which our collective consciousness manifests... and I, for one, am choosing love and vitality over fear and destruction.

Therefore, I am not concerned with whether or not a figurehead can be taken out. I believe there is more power in the awareness of the people than there is in a figurehead any day.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton...) [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9125683 - 10/24/08 09:22 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Are you sure this doesn't belong in the political forum?


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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Icelander]
    #9125711 - 10/24/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Most people seem to think that David Wilcock's material is pretty paranormal. He talks about aliens a lot, amongst other things.

Further, I thought this was the forum within which we could post "outlandish concepts" without fear of criticism, therefore, much like P&MWB, it may have good reason to contain threads which may technically be categorized within another forum.

I'd rather not have to defend concepts such as "the thoughts we choose create the reality within which our collective consciousness resides" in a forum that would most likely demand some sort of evidence of such a claim.

By the logic you're presenting, we'd have to move most of the posts to S&P respectively.

You're welcome to click the little "report" icon at the bottom of any of these posts and let a forum moderator decide, however.

I'm not sure why you'd pose the question to me. I'm not a moderator.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9125732 - 10/24/08 09:42 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a good point - its boring to see a thread derailed by chumps who want to argue over technicalities.

That was always my problem with P&S discussion - there would be 3 chump posts to every contributing post.

I'd spend the whole post trying to show a different POV to someone who had already made their mind up - instead of discussing the subject matter as intended.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9125910 - 10/24/08 10:19 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I just read the full article @ divinecosmos.com. Very exciting read! I can't wait to see how the world unfolds in the next 4 years!

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Ego Death]
    #9125947 - 10/24/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Could it be that we might have reached a point in society's evolution that corruption, even from the most wealthy and powerful, will be brought into the light and the public eye?

Could it be that the founding fathers dreams of equality uncolored by greed and immorality is finally coming true more then two hundred years later?

Only time will tell, but I for one hope that this is at least a step in that direction.  The only power anyone ever has is the power we give them, and if humanity decides to stop giving these people power then it will be so.

As I said however, this is probably only a first step.  There are probably many other "Rothschild" types out there still flying underneath the radar, probably more then we think.  You know though, it only takes one domino to send the stack crashing down.  Every great journey starts with a first step.  Only time will tell if we decide to weather this path.


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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #9130891 - 10/25/08 08:40 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I frankly am shocked that so many of you find David Wilcock remotely correct or relevant.  I saw one video of him online at a seminar he gave on 2012.  He totally lost me when he said that the Mark of the Beast as referred to in the Bible is really calcification of the pineal gland.  He said this calcification is a result of flouride in our water and toothpaste. 



Am I missing something here ?  This guy sounds entirely bonkers to me.

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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Left Nut City]
    #9130918 - 10/25/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Are you really?  In the Mysticism and the Paranormal forum? :smile:


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Re: David Wilcock's latest... Rothschild political influences in UK as well as US (McCain & Clinton. [Re: Left Nut City]
    #9131050 - 10/25/08 09:51 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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I frankly am shocked that so many of you find David Wilcock remotely correct or relevant.  I saw one video of him online at a seminar he gave on 2012.  He totally lost me when he said that the Mark of the Beast as referred to in the Bible is really calcification of the pineal gland.  He said this calcification is a result of flouride in our water and toothpaste. 



Am I missing something here ?  This guy sounds entirely bonkers to me.




Our pineal glands become "calcified" from all the unnatural things we ingest this day in age.

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