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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9112014 - 10/21/08 09:47 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

It would never happen


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9112039 - 10/21/08 09:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Really? :mad2:


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9112050 - 10/21/08 09:52 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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I think Obama knows he's losing in Pennsylvania.




I'm not entirely sure what logic you're using to determine that the above statement makes sense, but it's definitely unusual.


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9112071 - 10/21/08 09:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

California is so deep in party lines.  The only real independents actually vote third party here, and I suspect the majority of those are Dems who would retreat back if there were any real threat (or, you know, they would actually vote).


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: Redstorm]
    #9112072 - 10/21/08 09:54 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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logic



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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: Ferris]
    #9112080 - 10/21/08 09:55 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I was trying as hard as possible to avoid having to point out my sarcasm.


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9112117 - 10/21/08 10:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

made ya do it :wink:

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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: Ferris]
    #9112417 - 10/21/08 10:50 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Noone mentioning 538 dot com?


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: Minvaren]
    #9112516 - 10/21/08 11:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

And how about the Nickelodeon kids' poll

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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #9112517 - 10/21/08 11:12 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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The real issue is that McCain is not just behind in polls but has pretty much conceded or heavily reduced campaigning/advertising in the following states: Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Michigan, Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico. A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

And Pennsylvania has not gone Republican in 20 years, 





"A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

:rolleyes:


Then why are they still spending precious time and money these states?

And do you have a link with that statement?

the "gone" statement?


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsyvania? [Re: Ferris]
    #9112529 - 10/21/08 11:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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And how about the Nickelodeon kids' poll

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51-49

http://www.nick.com/shows/specials/kpp_07/




I trust it more than CNN


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9112530 - 10/21/08 11:13 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I can explain Iowa away as a state they want to build momentum in next for next election


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9112565 - 10/21/08 11:20 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

(Link) - Anyone else see a reason to play up a supposed Obama weakness in PA?


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9113578 - 10/22/08 02:36 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't play it up; that state is just bitter. :tongue:


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9113962 - 10/22/08 04:17 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

vonhumboldt said:
The real issue is that McCain is not just behind in polls but has pretty much conceded or heavily reduced campaigning/advertising in the following states: Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Michigan, Colorado, Iowa, and New Mexico. A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

And Pennsylvania has not gone Republican in 20 years, 





"A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

:rolleyes:


Then why are they still spending precious time and money these states?

And do you have a link with that statement?

the "gone" statement?




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The McCain campaign is looking at an Electoral College strategy heading into the final two weeks that has virtually no room for error and depends heavily on a dramatic comeback in Pennsylvania, which hasn't backed a Republican for president in 20 years.

While Iowa, New Mexico and Colorado are still officially listed as McCain target states, two top strategists and advisers tell CNN that the situation in those states looks increasingly bleak. Iowa and New Mexico always have been viewed as difficult races, but the similar assessment of Colorado reflects a dramatic shift for a campaign that had long counted on the state.

"Gone," was the word one top McCain insider used to describe those three states.

This source said while the polls in Colorado remain close, he and most others in the operation were of the opinion that the Obama campaign and its allies have a far superior ground/turnout operation and "most of us have a hard time counting on Colorado."


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #9114044 - 10/22/08 05:00 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

I live in Colorado. If it goes to McCain, I'll be shocked. I don't know about anything else.


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9114533 - 10/22/08 10:41 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

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thedefone said:
(Link) - Anyone else see a reason to play up a supposed Obama weakness in PA?





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lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

vonhumboldt said:
A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

 





"A McCain advisor described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

do you have a link with that statement?

the "gone" statement?





Thats your fucking link?


"This is what CNN's Chief National Corespondent John King had to say..."

"Most people top in the McCain campaign now believe New Mexico and Iowa are gone, that Barack Obama will win New Mexico and Iowa. They are now off the dream list of the McCain campaign. More interestingly, most top people inside the McCain campaign think Colorado is gone."


:rofl2:


Jesus you guys are a trip.....



fuck CNN's Chief Corespondent John King!


He's not a McCain advisor.....


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: vonhumboldt]
    #9114543 - 10/22/08 10:47 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

vonhumboldt said:
Quote:

lonestar2004 said:
Quote:

vonhumboldt said:
A McCain adviser described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

And Pennsylvania has not gone Republican in 20 years, 





"A McCain adviser described Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."

:rolleyes:


Then why are they still spending precious time and money these states?

And do you have a link with that statement?

the "gone" statement?




enjoy

The McCain campaign is looking at an Electoral College strategy heading into the final two weeks that has virtually no room for error and depends heavily on a dramatic comeback in Pennsylvania, which hasn't backed a Republican for president in 20 years.

While Iowa, New Mexico and Colorado are still officially listed as McCain target states, two top strategists and advisers tell CNN that the situation in those states looks increasingly bleak. Iowa and New Mexico always have been viewed as difficult races, but the similar assessment of Colorado reflects a dramatic shift for a campaign that had long counted on the state.

"Gone," was the word one top McCain insider used to describe those three states.

This source said while the polls in Colorado remain close, he and most others in the operation were of the opinion that the Obama campaign and its allies have a far superior ground/turnout operation and "most of us have a hard time counting on Colorado."







Like i told "thedefone" as much as you guys would love for CNN to be McCain political advisor's its not fucking reality!

Again do either of you have a link with A McCain adviser describing Iowa, Colorado, and New Mexico as "gone."


or all your liks just  "CNN sources"


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: thedefone]
    #9114556 - 10/22/08 10:56 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

FYI

"McCain's regional spokesman Tom Kise says the report isn't true and that pulling back in Colorado isn't on the table. He spoke as Sarah Palin wrapped a daylong trip through Colorado and said that McCain would be back campaigning in the state on Friday."


http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=102237&provider=top

They are still campaigning there?


Tom Kise (McCain's regional spokesman)

A name and a title are very different from a " CNN unnamed source"....


Just more lies from the media, you guys are getting so sad...


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Re: Leaked Obama Internals Show Him Within Margin in Pennsylvania? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #9114562 - 10/22/08 10:58 AM (12 years, 4 months ago)

What's sad is taking an internal survey that still has Obama winning, albeit by a smaller margin, and then somehow understanding that as "Obama knows he's losing in Pennsylvania". It makes no sense.


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