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ChuangTzu
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9509248 - 12/28/08 08:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum said: Looks like I'm on track to winning this bet.
Are you going to put up money and agree on terms? Last time I asked you that you disappeared for a few months.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9509250 - 12/28/08 08:36 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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>I remember you guys saying that this would never even make mainstream news
I don't remember anyone saying that. The mainstream news covers all kinds of things.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9510102 - 12/28/08 11:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum said: Randell Mills has 30 scientists working for him.
So what? George W. Bush has millions of people working for him, including thousands or scientists. What does that prove?
I'm starting to think you're just a troll on some free energy kick...
yeah, he has been at it since he registered here. I do hope he wins this non-existant bet, the one he himself has chosen NOT to buy into. If so, then it will be a great discovery, and most certainly help the world...as stated before though, i will not put any faith in this, as these claims have been around for years and years, and have yet to produce one single workable model. Sure, these guys have 'workign reactors', but if they are so great, many many people would be throwing much more than 50 million measly dollars towards it. I hope I eat my words one day and it works, until then, its a false hope IMO>
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: supra]
#9516892 - 12/30/08 08:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya I'll bet that they are going to go commercial soon. Okay I win pay up.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9517106 - 12/30/08 09:48 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have been warned about trolling. If you have nothing of substance to add to the discussion, please do not post. I'm not going to warn you much more before I ban you from this forum; something I would rather not do.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
#9522914 - 12/31/08 10:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was simply responding to what Chuang said don't think that you are superior here Seuss I have just as much a right to free speech on this site as you so get off my back now thanks.
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9522930 - 12/31/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also this isn't about bets I was just joking when I said that. This should be something that is celebrated not debated I mean if your really so confused as to how all this works maybe you should contact the inventor directly like Garret said.
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9522931 - 12/31/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody has a right to free speech on this site dude. This site is owned by people who have a right to sensor whatever the hell they want.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
#9522941 - 12/31/08 10:14 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well so much for freedom guess we should just create a lynch mob and go around banning whoever the heck we want. Oh and you spelled sensor wrong its censor.
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9522955 - 12/31/08 10:16 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, you dont understand... Its not your site, its somebody elses - so it is that somebody's freedom to censor whoever they want. A freedom you do have on your own websites.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9522989 - 12/31/08 10:21 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya ok they can censor whatever if it breaks the sites rules but I haven't broken any by responding to questions therefore it's pointless to even debate this. Also what is it exactly about this process that you find fault with Seuss? You gave your opinion on why the ZPE won't work but not this how come?
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9523206 - 12/31/08 11:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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> You gave your opinion on why the ZPE won't work but not this how come?
I don't know that this one wont work, but I do know that the explanation of why this one supposedly 'does work' (with respect to energy level below the ground state) is incorrect. Regardless, my explaining why Mills is theory is incorrect is pointless. You don't have the level of education needed to understand it (calculus), thus you will immediately dismiss it. Rather than waste my time, I will let you wallow in ignorance as this keeps both of us happy. Nothing I, or anybody else, say is going to change your mind... nor does your opinion matter... thus rather than insult you, I prefer to leave things unsaid. However, since you asked, I answered.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9523720 - 12/31/08 01:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum, I'm curious. Do you still think that Steorn's perpetual motion machine works?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9524048 - 12/31/08 02:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss this has nothing to do with my level of education. How does your education stack up against Mills is the real question. The Shrodinger Equation is wrong you need to figure that part out with your calc tricks.
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9524117 - 12/31/08 02:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd love to see something like this be proven correct someday, but I don't think I ever will. If Suess says it ain't so, you should listen to him.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9524219 - 12/31/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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> The Shrodinger Equation is wrong you need to figure that part out with your calc tricks.
Mills 'energy level lower than ground state' can be disproven with simple calculus and classical physics (no quantum mechanics).
> Seuss this has nothing to do with my level of education.
If I talk about setting a derivative equal to zero and solving, you wouldn't understand the implications of the calculation. It has everything to do with our level of education. I would be a fool to walk into a restaurant's kitchen and pretend that understand the how to run the thing having never been in culinary school. There is no way I could understand the methods used to estimate how much product to buy based upon portion size, seating, etc, without first understanding the fundamentals involved.
> If Seuss says it ain't so, you should listen to him.
I've been wrong before, and will be again... and am even willing to go so far as to say that Mills might have discovered something (though I doubt it), but Mills explanation of what he has found is bogus... either that, or everything we understand (and I mean everything) about physics is wrong.
It boils down to physics claiming that total energy equals potential energy plus kinetic energy. In order for Mills to be correct, the previous statement has to be false. It is trivial to prove the original statement is true using equations and theories that Mills himself uses. If our understanding of this was incorrect, then satellites wouldn't stay in orbit, transistors wouldn't switch, radio transmitters and receivers wouldn't work, etc...
> Do you still think that Steorn's perpetual motion machine works?
I missed your answer on this question...
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
#9524418 - 12/31/08 04:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > If our understanding of this was incorrect, then satellites wouldn't stay in orbit, transistors wouldn't switch, radio transmitters and receivers wouldn't work, etc...
> Do you still think that Steorn's perpetual motion machine works?
I missed your answer on this question...
So do you know what dark matter is too by your calculations? I didn't think so because it is so exotic it is unexplainable by classical and quantum physics. And do I think Steorn could work yes gravity motors are proven concepts look them up on peswiki.com
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Edited by buddhahoodlum (01/01/09 11:29 PM)
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9524576 - 12/31/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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But isn't it pretty obvious by now that Steorn is a scam?
People have been claiming they've invented free energy or perpetual motion for decades (at least) and they'll be doing it for decades still. It is always one of two things: wrong, or knowingly wrong (a scam).
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: zouden]
#9524674 - 12/31/08 05:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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zouden said: But isn't it pretty obvious by now that Steorn is a scam?
People have been claiming they've invented free energy or perpetual motion for decades (at least) and they'll be doing it for decades still. It is always one of two things: wrong, or knowingly wrong (a scam).
the only reason they can is because certain people keep on falling for it. As long as there is money to be made by making claims as such, they will keep on rolling in.
peace
Edited by supra (12/31/08 05:08 PM)
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
#9524904 - 12/31/08 06:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > How is someone on their payroll independent?
It is kinda like those double blind studies... people got tired of having to have their eyes plucked out for science, so now they just pretend to be blind. If they can do double blind studies without people losing both eyes, then certainly that can do independent studies without people actually being independent?
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