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supra
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: zouden]
#9149137 - 10/28/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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zouden said: >And I would wager that they are going to be commercializing this new power source very soon from what they have said in the documentary. Sometime next year wouldn't be to far off of a guess.
Sure. Like Steorn.

i remember that one too!!!
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: supra]
#9155597 - 10/29/08 06:18 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Speaking of real physicists publishing about free energy in a peer reviewed journal, that has already happened. Don't get excited, bh, it turned out to be a fraud. Most of you are too young to remember cold fusion and the scientists who claimed they found it. It was believed for a while since it came from a solid source. At first some scientists and universities said that it worked. Then the reports were mixed, then they were all negative. Then it was debunked.
I, on the other hand, do know the secret to perpetual energy. Just send me $20 and I'll send you the plans. Feel free to make a fortune off it.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Stonehenge]
#9155696 - 10/29/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, that example is good to remember when cases like this come about. You shouldn't believe anything one person, or one article says. There needs to be a consensus.
(side note: fusion, cold or otherwise, is not "free" energy in the sense that it is not perpetual)
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automan
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9155725 - 10/29/08 06:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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ChuangTzu said:
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buddhahoodlum said: And I would wager that they are going to be commercializing this new power source very soon from what they have said in the documentary. Sometime next year wouldn't be to far off of a guess.
OK, so we should set the terms of the bet at one year?
If you each want to send the cash ($5,000 each?) to me, I will put it into a 2 or 3 year certificate of deposit earning about 3.7% interest and that two or three years will be the length of the wager. I will document the whole affair and send you guys whatever information you need to feel comfortable in my role as mediator/escrow agent.
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Stonehenge
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: automan]
#9160329 - 10/30/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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No one wants to send me money for my unproven plan? OK then, I'll give it away for free. You heard it here first!
You need a treadmill and a squirrel or other small rodent type animal. Hook up the treadmill to a generator and unlimited free energy is yours. Just gather a few acorns and they will stay happy.
Automan, yours is a good scheme, I mean plan, too. I assume you get to keep the interest for your work in the matter?
-------------------- “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835) Trade list http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18047755
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zouden
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Stonehenge]
#9161514 - 10/30/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's renewable because you can just grow more acorns, and squirrels.
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automan
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Stonehenge]
#9161542 - 10/30/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Automan, yours is a good scheme, I mean plan, too. I assume you get to keep the interest for your work in the matter?
Hadn't thought of it. It seems like that money should go to the winner as well.
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PhanTomCat
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9161817 - 10/30/08 10:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Diploid said: The day a real Ph.D physicist (not some guy who bought a Ph.D for $200 online)
You can buy them.....? Link please, I think I need to publish something.... 
These threads are amusing.... The battle is always along the lines of Mysticism Vs Philosophy, but as Illusionists Vs Scientists....

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9165200 - 10/31/08 03:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, and here one person is right and the other is wrong.
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Learyfan
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9170080 - 11/01/08 09:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Log in to view attachment
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Learyfan]
#9172182 - 11/02/08 12:14 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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So buddhahoodlum, are you going to put your money where your mouth is or what? I've been trying to figure out what to do with this $5k anyway and I can't think of a safer way to double my money...
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9172355 - 11/02/08 12:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anyone taking side bets
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: blewmeanie]
#9504312 - 12/27/08 09:07 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9504601 - 12/27/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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EXTRA EXTRA!....
TRUST CNN.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9504755 - 12/27/08 11:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like I'm on track to winning this bet.
Funny how you haven't actually put up the money yet. We're all waiting...
Even funnier how BlackLight "hired" a guy to "independently" validate their claims. How is someone on their payroll independent?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9505679 - 12/28/08 03:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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> How is someone on their payroll independent?
It is kinda like those double blind studies... people got tired of having to have their eyes plucked out for science, so now they just pretend to be blind. If they can do double blind studies without people losing both eyes, then certainly that can do independent studies without people actually being independent? The guy just pretends to be independent. It doesn't matter if he is right or wrong, as long as the investors contribute to the cause. It isn't as if they are concerned about being published in peer reviewed journals or anything of that nature.
On a more serious note... I am a bit curious about this power plant they are building. Where can we find out more information? Pictures would be big.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
#9506346 - 12/28/08 08:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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As with all free-energy frauds, the key is in flashy PR (with a touch of intrigue).
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Diploid
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
#9506539 - 12/28/08 10:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Where can we find out more information? Pictures would be big.
According to the CNN report, it will be five years before you'll see pictures of the plant. The perfect amount of time to thoroughly bilk investors before they start to wonder if they've been had. They've been at this since before 2000, by the way.
Realize that this thing is based on Hydrinos (a hydrogen atom with the electron below the ground state) which are almost-certainly nonsense since they would invalidate the single most successful theory in all of science, namely quantum mechanics. Hydrinos also directly contradict many observations besides.
If hydrinos exist, then transistors, whose invention relied on the knowledge given us by the theory, would never have been invented. Same for LEDs, modern disk drives, CPUs, lasers, and a million other inventions that wouldn't exist if quantum mechanics was so wrong.
At most he's stumbled onto some new combustion modality, which would be very cool, but it's also very unlikely; and his explanation is almost-certainly wrong.
This whole thing is a rehash of the Steorn business model of raising money from the apparently endless supply of gullible investors.
I gotta hand it to these guys though. What a great way to make money legally. It's downright religious the way unthinking people send money to Randell Mills. He's raised $50 million so far!
I'm so in the wrong business.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9508984 - 12/28/08 07:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I remember you guys saying that this would never even make mainstream news and then you still just cry and say its hoax even though Randell Mills has 30 scientists working for him.
-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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ChuangTzu
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9509235 - 12/28/08 08:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum said: Randell Mills has 30 scientists working for him.
So what? George W. Bush has millions of people working for him, including thousands or scientists. What does that prove?
I'm starting to think you're just a troll on some free energy kick...
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