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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9125256 - 10/24/08 05:45 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You seem to have a very idealistic view of individual scientists (and CEOs). They are "just" humans. Scientists are also prone to money, wishful thinking and making mistakes. Scientists are not always right and objective, no matter what institution they belong to. Individual science is very subjective and a true scientist is aware of this. You may get excited about this idea, but the amount of trust and believe you put in a few individuals is unrealistic. Especially if it is about free energy. You are far too early to call it proven and validated.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9132099 - 10/25/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You fail at science.
What scientific background do you have (if any)?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Cepheus]
#9133920 - 10/25/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm not the scientist that has to prove it's real. So therefore it doesn't really matter what my scientific background is. I'm just showing you out of generosity. And ya I have a bit of a scientific background otherwise I wouldn't even care about this type of stuff and for that matter I wouldn't of even be able to find info on ZPE if I wasn't scientifically inclined because I would have no clue what it even was. Notice how the mainstream news only talks about wind,solar,geothermal,nuclear,hot fusion?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9133945 - 10/25/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's because those sources of power actually work (apart from fusion, which isn't discussed much). How many homes are powered by zero-point energy?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: zouden]
#9133962 - 10/25/08 08:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just because something is a theory doesn't mean it doesn't work. Blacklight can tell you that. And I would imagine that there a couple places being powered by ZPE like Magnetic Power Inc and Blacklight Power Inc.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9133986 - 10/25/08 08:59 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can guarantee you those places are not powered by ZPE. What does a ZPE generator even do? And if they have them, why don't the rest of us?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: zouden]
#9134402 - 10/25/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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zouden said: I can guarantee you those places are not powered by ZPE. What does a ZPE generator even do? And if they have them, why don't the rest of us?
because, even though this technology could save the world energy crisis, nobody cares to do it...It works so well, that nobody uses it.

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: supra]
#9134577 - 10/25/08 10:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Actually yes there is Blacklight is using their prototype to run various things around the warehouse so your out. And also how come none of you have commented on the pdf I posted showing their methods for the experiment isn't that what you wanted to see?
Oh and you might wanna check out this documentary they just made about it.
http://www.blacklightpower.com/Documentary%20Video/blacklight_experiment_video_v2.wmv
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Edited by buddhahoodlum (10/26/08 12:05 AM)
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9134638 - 10/25/08 11:05 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you wanna take that bet or not?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9134676 - 10/25/08 11:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya I bet there right. Watch the video too you might wanna retract that bet soon afterwards.
Edited by buddhahoodlum (10/25/08 11:30 PM)
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9139097 - 10/26/08 09:00 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- “I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T “Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature." - Nikola Tesla
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9139549 - 10/26/08 10:50 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum said: Ya I bet there right. Watch the video too you might wanna retract that bet soon afterwards.
You're on. How long do you want to give them before to come out with an actual product--another 20 years?
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9140317 - 10/27/08 01:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I propose you both send your $5000 to a disinterested intermediary now who will award the money to the winner.
[Note to audience: Based on passed performance, I predict BH will renege on the bet he has already accepted. In fact, I'd wager money on this. A meta-bet!]
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9140343 - 10/27/08 02:02 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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How about a sane amount, like $20. That way there can be a real expectation of payment.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
#9140524 - 10/27/08 03:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9141354 - 10/27/08 10:52 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Science advancements are made through new theorys otherwise it gets really stagnant.
Let's be clear on something, though.
Many laypeople present new cockamamie ideas that are totally contrary to established ideas, and they meet with resistance not because their ideas are contrary, but because they are LAYPEOPLE.
Name one example of a successful, paradigm-changing scientist who wasn't a practiced expert on the OLD paradigm first. Copernicus? Newton? Harvey? Kepler? Einstein? Maxwell? Watson & Crick? Boltzmann? Mendeleev? Planck? Feynman? Gell-Mann? Hubble? Lyell? Agassiz? Darwin?
All understood the old way before they rocked the world with their new way. Your guys are all hacks who've never done anything but dupe gullible people out of their money, and their publications show they don't even understand the old basics, let alone anything new.
Deliberately ignoring your predecessors might be a good strategy in entrepreneurship, but it's definitely not in science. And THAT'S why every crackpot who reads Popular Mechanics and thinks he's a physicist is ridiculed and ignored. Like we did at your other failed buddy (Steorn) last year and like we're doing again with your new buddy this year. How long before you give up on this one and offer up the next crackpot who dupes you into believing in nonsense?
The day a real Ph.D physicist (not some guy who bought a Ph.D for $200 online) says in a peer-reviewed paper that he's invented a perpetual motion machine, I promise you everyone on Earth will sit up and pay attention. Until then, we'll just laugh at all the fools who 'invest' in the new Earth-shaking idea that somehow never shakes anything.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Diploid]
#9145953 - 10/28/08 12:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Agreed. How about an interest-bearing trust account to be awarded to the winner (me) when the outcome is determined?
But first we need to establish the full terms of the bet. The main remaining question is, how long do we wait before saying they've failed? Obviously an open-ended bet won't do because BH can keep saying they need more time (they've already been stalling investors for 20 years at this point...)
Edited by ChuangTzu (10/28/08 12:17 AM)
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
#9146255 - 10/28/08 01:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow do I really need to go over these scientists flawless credentials again? Please don't make me it might take awhile to list all of the Ivy league schools that they've obtained PHD's from. And I would wager that they are going to be commercializing this new power source very soon from what they have said in the documentary. Sometime next year wouldn't be to far off of a guess.
Diploid said
And THAT'S why every crackpot who reads Popular Mechanics and thinks he's a physicist is ridiculed and ignored.
WRONG you got it backwards.
Ever heard of the 9/11 truth movement they hate on that fascist mag all the time. And yet the mainstream media treats it like its god and can dissolve all crackpot conspiracy theories in a snap. So it's not exactly looked upon as a crackpot mag by the public but who cares they freaken support fascists.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9146316 - 10/28/08 01:48 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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>And I would wager that they are going to be commercializing this new power source very soon from what they have said in the documentary. Sometime next year wouldn't be to far off of a guess.
Sure. Like Steorn.
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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
#9146525 - 10/28/08 02:50 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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buddhahoodlum said: And I would wager that they are going to be commercializing this new power source very soon from what they have said in the documentary. Sometime next year wouldn't be to far off of a guess.
OK, so we should set the terms of the bet at one year?
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