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BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!!
    #9109954 - 10/21/08 01:55 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone it looks like Blacklight Power Inc has actually pulled it off and demonstrated a 50kw prototype and it has been independently confirmed by Rowan University check it out.

http://www.blacklightpower.com/pdf/BLPIndependentReport.pdf

http://www.blacklightpower.com/Press%20Releases/BlacklightPressRelease102008.doc


Humanity might just be saved after all.  Now all that we must do is restore are constitution and we will be home free.  This is the holy grail of energy devices folks this changes the whole paradigm.


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110021 - 10/21/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I dont get it.  The press release didnt say much...

Is this for powering cars, or for use on the grid?

The press release mentioned hydrogen as a fuel 'source', Im not sure why this is any different than regular H combustion or fuel cell?

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #9110073 - 10/21/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Its a new theory on the ground state energy levels of hydrogen.  Dr.Randell Mills says that he's created a new form of hydrogen at a lower ground state energy than anything else ever theorized by classical physics.  And yes it is for home power use so that you could be completely off the grid and it has many other applications such as new lasers and stuff.  Just read the site and his book it's all there.  It's called a Hydrino I've mentioned it once on here awhile back.

Here is some more news articles on it

http://www.ecogeek.org/content/view/2223/78/

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/blacklight-power-inc-announces-independent/story.aspx?guid=


Link to original post about it on here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4930510/page/0/fpart/1/vc/1


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“I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110126 - 10/21/08 02:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Lower ground state than -13.6?  That would overturn alot wouldnt it?

Its almost assuredly crackpottery.

EDIT - After reading that other post, I have to say its bullshit.

Edited by Qubit (10/21/08 02:30 PM)

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #9110174 - 10/21/08 02:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Umm no it's not crack pottery it was independently validated by Rowan University which is ranked 14th in the nation for engineering.  So believe what you want but its confirmed in the scientific community now.


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110186 - 10/21/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

What is confirmed?  That Hydrino exists or that it can solve the energy problem?

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110194 - 10/21/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Both please just read the materials I posted it explains everything in detail so that there is nothing to question.


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110243 - 10/21/08 02:49 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

buddhahoodlum said:
Both please just read the materials I posted it explains everything in detail so that there is nothing to question.




:lol:  right......

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #9110687 - 10/21/08 04:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Haha keep laughing.  I'm sure you'll stop when you realize everything checks out.  Or maybe you don't care and think ignorance is bliss not quite sure with you yet.


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9110790 - 10/21/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Haha keep laughing.  I'm sure you'll stop when you realize everything checks out.  Or maybe you don't care and think ignorance is bliss not quite sure with you yet.




I'm so sure you're wrong, I'm willing to bet $5000 that it doesn't check out.

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: ChuangTzu]
    #9110906 - 10/21/08 04:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

The funny thing is that the company has managed to string along dumb investors for 20 years already...

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #9111112 - 10/21/08 05:33 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111412 - 10/21/08 06:22 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

> Haha keep laughing

Don't worry, I am.

When the starving physicist (:rofl: I remember that post!) decides it is worthwhile, I will believe it.  Until then, I'm with ChuangTzu...

There are a lot of names on the "proprietary and confidential" paper, but I didn't notice any PhD's.  After reading the paper, I also didn't find anything that discussed procedures used; nothing but conclusions for the most part.  The bibliography was also pretty thin. It is hard to judge the validity of their conclusion without knowing their testing procedures.

Finally, when dealing with hydrogen, it is easy to mistakenly measure too much energy.  I did this in high school with an electrolysis project.  I was getting more energy out than I was putting in.  After a lot of head scratching, and realizing that many of the physics professors at the local community college must have degrees from a crackerjack box, with the help of a professor from MIT (via postal mail) I was able to figure out what was going on.  The reaction, at very low energy levels, is endothermic and uses heat from the air to move the electrolysis forward.  When I moved the experiment into a freezer set just above freezing point of water, the extra energy disappeared.

If it is too good to be true, then it is most likely not true.  When something violates the known laws of physics, there is probably a mistake in the testing procedures rather than a mistake in the known laws of physics.


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: Seuss]
    #9111586 - 10/21/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Seuss did you not read the Rowan University report it cleary shows that a Phd Prof. Peter Mark Jansson from their school validated it.  Also I don't think I would exactly call Michael H Jordan a dumb investor he was CEO of Westinghouse energy company among others like Pepsico just incase you didn't do a profile check yourself.  And if you want more details on the actual procedures involved you need to read this http://www.blacklightpower.com/presentations/TechnicalPresentation101608.pdf ; and his 1500 somethin page book explaining his Grand Unified Theory.  Anyways theres no point in arguing if it is real or not that has already been confirmed.  And you should read that ecogeek.org article because that is coming from a previous skeptic and is now a believer.  Also Dr. Randell Mills holds a Doctor of Medicine degree from Harvard University and a BA degree in Chemistry from Franklin and Marshall College so I think he might know a thing or two about this type of stuff whad u think?  And Peter Jansson is an MIT and Oxford PhD

http://users.rowan.edu/~jansson/


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“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111626 - 10/21/08 06:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

A funny thing about crackpots is they're so quick to dismiss 100 years worth of theories with experimental verification... but when one crackpot hypothesis with one apparent verification comes along they buy it like its going out of style.

Why do you think that is?

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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111638 - 10/21/08 06:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Here's another scientific study from an independent source talking about the proposed hydrinos.


http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/1367-2630/7/1/127/njp5_1_127.html


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111683 - 10/21/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

DieCommie you'd be suprised to find out. That this is the case throughout history most of the time.  Science advancements are made through new theorys otherwise it gets really stagnant.

Perfect Examples of this
http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science/strange-but-true/item/invention_failure_never_work_disaster


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111712 - 10/21/08 07:07 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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DieCommie you'd be suprised to find out. That this is the case throughout history most of the time.  Science advancements are made through new theorys otherwise it gets really stagnant.




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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9111726 - 10/21/08 07:10 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yep looks like it.  And this one is for you Seuss


R. Mills, P. Ray, B. Dhandapani, W.Good, P. Jansson, M. Nansteel, J. He, A. Voigt " Spectroscopic and NMR Identification of Novel Hydride Ions in Fractional Quantum Energy States Formed by an Exothermic Reaction of Atomic Hydrogen with Certain Catalysts,"  Eur. Phys. J. Appl. Phys. (5 August 2004)


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“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla


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Re: BlackLight Power Inc Validated!!! [Re: buddhahoodlum]
    #9112064 - 10/21/08 07:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Seuss did you not read the Rowan University report it cleary shows that a Phd Prof. Peter Mark Jansson from their school validated it.




All he did was put some supposedly "specially prepared" Raney nickel in a calorimeter and measure the energy given off in some reaction.  For some reason they believe this amount of energy isn't explained by current theories.  I haven't been able to find a write-up of this procedure to determine why they even think the amount of energy obtained was atypical, however you should note that Jansson's degrees don't necessarily indicate his qualifications--his Ph.D. is in something like sustainable development (his own resume doesn't even mention this), his lesser degrees were in civil and electrical engineering.  I'd be looking for a physical chemist to do my calculations of expected energy and an experimental chemist to do the actual measurements.  The Jansson guy is teaching networking classes these days...

Even if the amount of energy given off in the reaction was atypical, that is in no way automatically proof even of the existence of hydrinos.  So hardly a "confirmation".

It's also worth noting that while working for Atlantic City Electric, he was responsible for arranging an investment from his company to BlackLight.

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