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Joe The Plumber
    #9107567 - 10/20/08 11:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I think old man McCain wants Palins ass....


LOL its funny how she goes on and on about him, but hes unlicensed, and not a plumber


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107589 - 10/21/08 12:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Mccain totally wants her ass, its so fucking pathetic
he twists his wedding ring around when hes standing next 2 her lol


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Coaster]
    #9107603 - 10/21/08 12:04 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Mccain totally wants her ass, its so fucking pathetic
he twists his wedding ring around when hes standing next 2 her lol




thats funny. I would too if I had his wife - she creeps me out.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107604 - 10/21/08 12:05 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Bob the lawyer working his ass off can barely reach the 250k tax level Obama proposes.

Obama is incredibly intelligent in his tax proposal.

Fuck the rich cunts.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107619 - 10/21/08 12:07 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

ya when i first heard that his cutoff was the middle class
and that he defined middle class as making less than .25million annually
i was like holy shit Obama thats not middle class
thats also upper class
then i c how it alllllllllllllllllll worked out as planned


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Coaster]
    #9107646 - 10/21/08 12:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

In a few weeks itll all work out.

Finally the family class will get some........fuck Trump and the Vegas fucks......McSlavedriver has 13 houses......hes so in touch with the americans....lmao.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Coaster]
    #9107648 - 10/21/08 12:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

it hasnt worked out yet


ID, having a license doesnt make one a tradesman, it simply
means you can sign off on the work, my brother is a journeyman
for the last 12 years, he simply hast taken the test but he
knows more than most people that have, my Pops was a master
plumber, worked for 40 years in the business, he was licensed

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107675 - 10/21/08 12:18 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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it hasnt worked out yet


ID, having a license doesnt make one a tradesman, it simply
means you can sign off on the work, my brother is a journeyman
for the last 12 years, he simply hast taken the test but he
knows more than most people that have, my Pops was a master
plumber, worked for 40 years in the business, he was licensed




Yet you became an asspuppet in a few months.

The market is taking a giant shit, 8 years ago there was a surplus and debt reduction.....houses and land were skyrocketing in the us......

Now you could trade in a Florida coastal 3 story for 2 hookers and a few 8 balls of crack.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107713 - 10/21/08 12:24 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

remember what forum you're in

also, 8 years ago there was no surplus, there was still a huge
deficit, the 'surplus' was an announcement that was supposed to
garner favor for the democrats for the upcoming election

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107738 - 10/21/08 12:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

with all due respect Prisoner there was an annual budget surplus at that time. Perhaps you are confusing "debt" and "deficit"?

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107753 - 10/21/08 12:30 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

in the real world, a surplus it's what's left over after ALL the bills are paid

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107775 - 10/21/08 12:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quibble all you want but there was a budget surplus in the late 90's. This is simply a fact, income exceeded outlay. Debt service does not have to include the entire debt.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107776 - 10/21/08 12:35 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Pris move this to OTD so we can speak free......


but yah......lets vote for the guy who voted for bush.....80% of the time.....

Maybe the market will magically fix itself or a new war will magically lift the GOP out of totally corrupt incompetent levels.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107792 - 10/21/08 12:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Pris move this to OTD so we can speak free......


but yah......lets vote for the guy who voted for bush.....80% of the time.....

Maybe the market will magically fix itself or a new war will magically lift the GOP out of totally corrupt incompetent levels.




Or perhaps the political forum. It is just OTD with a political bent. So much bullshit from ALL sides . . .

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107794 - 10/21/08 12:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quibble all you want but there was a budget surplus in the late 90's. This is simply a fact, income exceeded outlay. Debt service does not have to include the entire debt.




no, there was no surplus, clinton cooked the books

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/FY98CBOR.JT.htm

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107806 - 10/21/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

nice source lolz

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107810 - 10/21/08 12:42 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Irishdrunk said:
Pris move this to OTD so we can speak free......




we can leave it here for a civil discussion



Quote:

lets vote for the guy who voted for bush.....80% of the time.....




Obama?
Joe Biden voted supporting bush 87% of the time
John McCain voted supporting bush 90% of the time in only one year
Obama, well, he just voted present

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107814 - 10/21/08 12:43 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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nice source lolz




you can check it with the Congressional Budget Office, fact are facts

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107834 - 10/21/08 12:46 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Joe aint the nominee.....but he can take over if needed,

Sarahs a fucking puppet if there ever was one.

Chaney's new female clone.....a pretty gal....with an evil heart.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107846 - 10/21/08 12:48 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

The dick was working unlicenced, prolly not paying taxes........and asked if he'd be effected by Obamas taxes......

Not fucking likely.....unless he can get a crazy loan he cant afford and then default on it.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107852 - 10/21/08 12:50 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Joe aint the nominee.....but he can take over if needed,





from the way the media presents it, it's Barack Obama running
against Sarah Palin, Ol' Joe did a serious about face regarding
McCain and Obama once he was selected for the VP slot.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107855 - 10/21/08 12:50 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

then link something not branded RNC please, dont feel like searching for it

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107862 - 10/21/08 12:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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nice source lolz




you can check it with the Congressional Budget Office, fact are facts




LMAO...........I think I read that off the back of a republican office shitter, was covered in the shite u spew.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107866 - 10/21/08 12:52 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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The dick was working unlicenced, prolly not paying taxes........and asked if he'd be effected by Obamas taxes......





business entities are separate from personal, it's amazing how
he went from golden boy that exemplified the obama tax plan to
an absolute piece of shit as soon as McCain spoke his name

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107873 - 10/21/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yah amazing....../caugh


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107874 - 10/21/08 12:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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LMAO




didnt you guys put Harper back in Office?

keep it civil

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107887 - 10/21/08 12:56 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I remember a guy who went from "Plumber" to OTD moderator pretty fast.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107901 - 10/21/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

perhaps he is neither? The hyperbole is rife on both sides, and poor Joe has just become a piñata

oh and try http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy00/pdf/budget.pdf
I'm not saying that the US hasn't been living beyond its means, etc but by definition we did enter into a budget surplus briefly. I am not trying to credit Clinton, just stating the facts as they are understood by most that have some degree of training and expertise..

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107902 - 10/21/08 12:59 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Irishdrunk said:
LMAO




didnt you guys put Harper back in Office?

keep it civil




OK OK.......but hes Progressive Conservative which is republican....so we have a license to be assholes.  Or the licensing department lied to me.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107916 - 10/21/08 01:02 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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but hes Progressive Conservative which is republican




you reelected bush and you're saying we should vote for obama?

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107930 - 10/21/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Hell yes, theres a hell of a lot more intelligent people in the USA.

I have so much respect, and I know you'll be wiped like STALs winter poop into a porto-shitter.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107931 - 10/21/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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but by definition we did enter into a budget surplus briefly. 




with the largest tax increase the nation has ever seen, Newt Gingrich shut down the government because there was no money left

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107933 - 10/21/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

antiPock said:
Quibble all you want but there was a budget surplus in the late 90's. This is simply a fact, income exceeded outlay. Debt service does not have to include the entire debt.




no, there was no surplus, clinton cooked the books

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/FY98CBOR.JT.htm




God damn it.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I'm a union man and I made FAR more money under Bush than I ever did Herr Klinton.  Fuckin' political threads anyways.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107936 - 10/21/08 01:07 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Hell yes, theres a hell of a lot more intelligent people in the USA.




of course, that's why McCain will be elected

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107941 - 10/21/08 01:08 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Lets all hail Bush, his 8 years made the US the respectful superpower daddy we can all look up to.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107946 - 10/21/08 01:09 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Irishdrunk said:
Hell yes, theres a hell of a lot more intelligent people in the USA.




of course, that's why McCain will be elected




In your wet dreams......hurricane obama is going to drown you.

This is the end.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107955 - 10/21/08 01:10 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I love how everyone is blaming it on bush, this problem started
in 1998 when clinoon was running the world, I started bailing
out of the stock market in 1999, finished liquidating things by
2003 because even I could see where the clinton endorsed
legislation was going

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107956 - 10/21/08 01:11 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Obama s just as much a puppet as McCain is.

Anyone who voted for the bailout is obviously in the pockets of the private bankers or just too damn retarded to know how the economy really works. Either way, neither are to be trusted with the presidency.


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Irishdrunk]
    #9107960 - 10/21/08 01:12 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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hurricane obama is going to drown you.





QFT :sad:

and he'll take the whole nation down as well

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9107964 - 10/21/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I love how everyone is blaming it on bush, this problem started
in 1998 when clinoon was running the world, I started bailing
out of the stock market in 1999, finished liquidating things by
2003 because even I could see where the clinton endorsed
legislation was going





Thank you.


Remember Leonard Peltier and the pardon he never got?  I do.

Fuck Clinton in his lily-white, chicken-shit ass.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9107965 - 10/21/08 01:13 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Quibble all you want but there was a budget surplus in the late 90's. This is simply a fact, income exceeded outlay. Debt service does not have to include the entire debt.




no, there was no surplus, clinton cooked the books

http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/FY98CBOR.JT.htm




God damn it.  Thanks for clearing that up.  I'm a union man and I made FAR more money under Bush than I ever did Herr Klinton.  Fuckin' political threads anyways.




I am pretty sure that whatever YOU made in a given period does not neccesarily reflect the federal budget.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107980 - 10/21/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Pris goes to Joe the plumbers every sunday.....its by the airport.:gayflag:


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107991 - 10/21/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

except for tax cuts for business that do in fact trickle down
they help stimulate the economy even in shaky times like now,
unfortunately if you look it's when clinton started raising
taxes is around the same time jobs were being exported, seems
like it became our biggest export at that time while our gross
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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9107992 - 10/21/08 01:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

No, but the argument is what people, sometimes union people, can make under a given president.  I've heard all the arguments and I know what I made, plus the others in my field.  Last year we hired boomers into our local because the jobs were so plentiful.

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9108012 - 10/21/08 01:21 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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except for tax cuts for business that do in fact trickle down
they help stimulate the economy even in shaky times like now,
unfortunately if you look it's when clinton started raising
taxes is around the same time jobs were being exported, seems
like it became our biggest export at that time while our gross
domestic product is lawyers




again, I am talking annual budget: income vs outlay. All that I assert is that there was in fact an annual budget surplus. Guess we need to take this derail to POL.

oh, and Pris your comments read like a poem :grin:

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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9108048 - 10/21/08 01:28 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I never did understand why
some posts get cut short or die
Could it be the way the browser goes
or is it something running down the nose
I can't believe there's nothing in it
any fool can sees when they begin it

And I'm always like "What the Fuck!?!?!?"


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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
    #9108053 - 10/21/08 01:29 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah, I never did understand why
some posts get cut short or die
Could it be the way the browser goes
or is it something running down the nose
I can't believe there's nothing in it
any fool can sees when they begin it

And I'm always like "What the Fuck!?!?!?"




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Re: Joe The Plumber [Re: antiPock]
    #9108070 - 10/21/08 01:34 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

show me without posting a PDF of clintons cooked books, I
worked for a guy that made tons of money, paid his employees
poorly, he decided to sell and a few weeks later after several
interested buyers came to look the place over, he was nailed, a
couple guys in suits walked in and he was showing off both sets
of books to show how much he made and how much he reported


http://www.letxa.com/articles/16




just how much of a surplus did we really have?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/380217.stm

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Pris goes to Joe the plumbers every sunday.....its by the airport.:gayflag:




Obama 08 btw

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