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Instinctz
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Mycelium Stunting?
#9098700 - 10/19/08 01:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hello everyone. This is my first real attempt to obtain growth following the teks and what not.
I like most new folks was biting at the bit to see growth, then finally at about 1-two weeks the spores began their mycelium growing rituals. It looked pretty nice for about a week with slow/decent growth and finally no signs of contams (yay).
How ever after all four spots grew to about the size of golf balls or what have you, they seemed to hault any new growth other than a few risers traveling up into the verm. And then they all appear to have consolidated onto themselves shrinking away from the rest of the growth material. After about a week and a half of no futher growth I shook it up to see if I could get the verm to contact the mycelium once again and perhaps regrow.
I do regret not having a terrarium completed yet to maintain constant and prefered temperatures for incubating, but I assume this is the main cause for my stunted growth. (Along with moving them from the heated area to the room temperature storage trying to see the first noticable growth)
Anyways my question is, apparently this is stunted growth? Im not so much concerned with the causes as I am what to do from here.. could I possibly used the stunted growth as new incoulant for a casing, after breaking it up?
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Re: Mycelium Stunting? [Re: Instinctz]
#9098802 - 10/19/08 03:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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from my experience so far, i've noticed that growth is halted/near halted when the temperature fluctuates frequently. high temperatures have the chance to nuke cell life, while low temperatures have the chance to bring mycelium growth to a halt
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Instinctz
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I agree, from what I have witness thus far it seems as I first was not achieving a temperature high enough to promote the spores to begin mycelium growth, at which time I moved to a higher temperature. They showed nice growth for awhile which I then noticed or believed to see a decline. So I moved them to a cooler temperature.
The mycelium most likely thought of this as a trigger to set hold on its current foundation to set for pinning. Premature to growing throughout the full substrate.
At this point though I do not know if its possible I could revive the growth if I broke it up and set it into new spawn material or not.. which is mainly what I hope someone would be able to advise on. Or for purely researching reseans try and birth the partial inoculants. I am not exactly looking for high yields at this time sense I would just like to get a hands on grasp of everything.
Edited by Instinctz (10/19/08 03:49 AM)
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Re: Mycelium Stunting? [Re: Instinctz]
#9098943 - 10/19/08 05:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Instinctz said: I agree, from what I have witness thus far it seems as I first was not achieving a temperature high enough to promote the spores to begin mycelium growth, at which time I moved to a higher temperature. They showed nice growth for awhile which I then noticed or believed to see a decline. So I moved them to a cooler temperature.
The mycelium most likely thought of this as a trigger to set hold on its current foundation to set for pinning. Premature to growing throughout the full substrate.
At this point though I do not know if its possible I could revive the growth if I broke it up and set it into new spawn material or not.. which is mainly what I hope someone would be able to advise on. Or for purely researching reseans try and birth the partial inoculants. I am not exactly looking for high yields at this time sense I would just like to get a hands on grasp of everything.
wrong
temp drop is not a pinning trigger in cubensis, which is a tropical species.
You can colinise at room temp (75f). The difference between 75f and 80F is minimal.
Either your substrate is too wet or you have the inoculation holes covered.
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Instinctz
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Innoc Holes been open, even open the lid once to insure it was plenty of exchange.
I would now agree its to moist, where I shook up the jar and fresh verm was able to mix into the lower parts it began to show small new growth area's.
Thanks.
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Re: Mycelium Stunting? [Re: Instinctz]
#9100151 - 10/19/08 01:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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My jars did that too, I just gave them a shake, left them alone, and a week later they were good to go. Not sure if the shake helped, but it sure seemed to!
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Re: Mycelium Stunting? [Re: j.guit.err]
#9100214 - 10/19/08 02:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do not shake pf tek jars, the dry vermiculite layer is your contamination barrier. Disturb that layer and you risk contaminants spores falling into your substrate
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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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Instinctz
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Yeah I understand veda, thanks for advising on that though.
This was basicly my project jar and to see what all I could do right/wrong. But there is not really anyway to "soak up" the excess water content without disturbing the filter layer. And Im going to be transfering the contents to a casing mixture soon.
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Re: Mycelium Stunting? [Re: Instinctz]
#9100758 - 10/19/08 04:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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If your moisture content is too wet, you can remove the lid for a day and allow some moisture to evaporate.
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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
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You could try turning your jars upside down or laying them on their side to get some of the moisture to move to where your mycelium is already established. That way they'll be more pumped to grow out into some nicer, drier food.
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