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OfflineIcAnFeeLthErain
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Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE?
    #9095659 - 10/18/08 10:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I personally have never grown off cakes.  I have only used the rye tek which is linked in my signature, bc it was the most highly rated tek on the main site.  It also fit my setup (small tubs, martha, coolmist) and I just thought it would offer the best yields without doing a bulk grow.

Now I am reading lots of experienced folks telling others that the crumble and case method is a waste of time and energy.  And that they produce no more than cakes?? 

Can I get some feedback on this from cultivators who have had a very successful run with both methods?  Perhaps a good tek to follow for a bulk grow, using rye and quart jars, that I can use to expand my horizons?


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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: IcAnFeeLthErain]
    #9095693 - 10/18/08 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

In my experience, crumbling PF-style cakes and casing increases the yield - but not drastically. If you're already capable of doing grains, I would stick to rye unless you're trying cakes for novelty value.

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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: Brennus]
    #9095705 - 10/18/08 10:28 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm thinking I might need to do a bulk grow, if I can still utilize my precious martha :laugh:
I :heart: my martha


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Take your sweet time, everything is a once in a life time experience.

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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: IcAnFeeLthErain]
    #9095725 - 10/18/08 10:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Spawn that rye to coir...


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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: dead]
    #9095877 - 10/18/08 11:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

or cow shit.


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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: doze]
    #9096000 - 10/18/08 12:18 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

crumbling cakes cannot yeild more, there no extra nuitrients and mycelium will use resources repairing the network. if your fruiting conditions are spot on cakes do well. casings are more tolerent of swings in humidity. casings however will still perform best in high humity.


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Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: doze]
    #9096012 - 10/18/08 12:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

spawn to coir and fruit uncased and you will notice a big difference.


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PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666
Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD
Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong
Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek
Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek
Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub
Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek
Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek

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Re: Crumble & Case...Really a WASTE? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9096437 - 10/18/08 02:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah man, spawn that shit (...to shit)


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