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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Seuss]
    #9106238 - 10/20/08 08:18 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

So all those who vote for Obama on November 4th are Otards? Are those who vote for McCain immediately placed within the column of McTard?

I'm simply trying to understand what this all means. Many people here were Ron Paul supporters, considering his last name is comprised of a single syllable, how would you apply the Tard suffix in his case? Could we deviate from the established form, assume that Ron is short for Ronald, and just go with RonTard? Why should the Republican Party be rewarded for nominating someone like McCain?

Rather the electing either of these two candidates (qu'ils mangent de la brioche), perhaps we should all stay home on election day and sharpen our guillotines. Of course, many of us live in the real world and have experienced the actual repercussions of government policy -- sometimes harm reduction is a necessary evil. Maybe this will be extremely shocking to some of you, but over the course of the last eight years a confluence of events have transpired that don’t exactly endear the incumbent party to me... I guess that makes me an "Otard".


McCain :rolleyes:

Obama  :rolleyes:

Ron Paul :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #9106283 - 10/20/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Points why I will vote obama...

Energy-Obama seems more willing to allocate money to alternative renewable energies. If we can step up and revolutionize transportation (electric/hydrogen) this will have such far reaching benefits I think it would keep us on top and make sure we will stay that way for a looong time. Imagine hydrogen is the new oil and we are the middle east of it. Our economy would sky rocket, out deficit would finally begin to shrink. Also it would create many new jobs which is really important for someone like me about to enter the job market while reading stuff like this where 20million jobs will be lost by the end of the year because of the financial crisis.

Foreign Policy- The USA needs to step up and be a leader again. We went from the clinton days where the rest of the world respected us to the bush days where we were seen as evil imperialists. I believe all the problems that we are trying to solve unilaterally though military means could be taken care of 100x better diplomatically through strong alliances. I just don't like how the Republicans handle foreign policy.

Sara Palin-McCain shot himself in the foot on this one. And as Colin Powell said, what does this reflect about McCain's judgment?

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: georgeM]
    #9107281 - 10/20/08 11:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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So all those who vote for Obama on November 4th are Otards? Are those who vote for McCain immediately placed within the column of McTard?

"Otard".



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hahhahaha a Mctard. i'm totally gonna call mentally challenged people that work at McDonalds Mctards from now on

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #9107292 - 10/20/08 11:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I dont....I hate it when people assume by the way I look that Im an Obama supporter. Anyone else get that?

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #9107325 - 10/20/08 11:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I do, but how do you look?  I think its just cuz I'm young really.  People also act surprised when I oppose drug prohibition too, as I do when it comes up.

I don't know how I look, but I've got short hair, and wear comfortable clothes, but nothing hippyish- polo shirts, button up long sleeve shirts, khakis, jeans, et cet.

I think people just have a mental idea of who "they" are with drug users (which they assum I am cuz I oppose prohibition) and obama supporters.


A young guy is supposed to be an obama supporter I guess.  I say I support Bob Barr and they don't know who that is...  Then they whine about "corporate shills" and "special interests" and other buzzwords that express a general dissatisfaction with the politics of this country and that evidence an external locus of control.... and then the irony that somone who doesn't know who a major third party candidate is  was just bitching about corporate interests buying off government and the lack of true choice in politics overtakes me and I have to sit down for a spell

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Jive turkey]
    #9107365 - 10/20/08 11:25 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i really don't like either candidate ,but the idea of Obama is president scares me I have a feeling he's going to bankrupt our country. listening to him talk you can tell he has a passion to really help the low and middle class ,but chopping down the legs of the free market with the big government axe isn't the way to go about it.

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Jive turkey]
    #9107469 - 10/20/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, agreed.


I'm just worried.  Hopefully Obama will turn out to be more of a clinton- and hopefully the democrats won't hang themselves and the country with the rope the bush administration has given them, but I'm worried.


Maybe some good will come out of this and the republicans will start trying to act like republicans for a bit.. stop supporting bullshit huge spending bills and federal intevention in our lives... stop passing 700 billion dollar bills with 100 billion dollars extra tacked on for such important industries such as wooden arrows' for kids (thanks oregon- you jackasses), virgin islands rum, and other crap.  (I'm not denigrating the importance of children's wooden arrows or even the merits of a surely important provisions, just saying that perhaps this bullshit could be considered later?)



I'm really just sick of people that seem to think money (by which I mean value) comes from the feds out of thin air.  The feds can't create wealth.  The best thing they could do is leave people the fuck alone so that buisness can funciton, produce jobs and goods, and let people work and live their lives.


I hav eno idea how people think a country that allready is suffering from a huge deficiet and tax burden (part of which goes to pay for those past deficits) should be passing NEW entitlement creating laws.



How about we gtfo of people's lives and pay off this bullshit we owe?

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: johnm214]
    #9108427 - 10/21/08 04:17 AM (15 years, 4 months ago)

> How about we gtfo of people's lives and pay off this bullshit we owe?

QFT.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Nova]
    #9109797 - 10/21/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Points why I will vote obama...

Energy-Obama seems more willing to allocate money to alternative renewable energies. If we can step up and revolutionize transportation (electric/hydrogen) this will have such far reaching benefits I think it would keep us on top and make sure we will stay that way for a looong time. Imagine hydrogen is the new oil and we are the middle east of it. Our economy would sky rocket, out deficit would finally begin to shrink. Also it would create many new jobs which is really important for someone like me about to enter the job market while reading stuff like this where 20million jobs will be lost by the end of the year because of the financial crisis.




Hydrogen is not even close to feasible because you need other energy to separate it out.  Further, unless you are directly in this field the jobs destruction a socialist will bring about should weigh heavily on your mind.
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Foreign Policy- The USA needs to step up and be a leader again. We went from the clinton days where the rest of the world respected us to the bush days where we were seen as evil imperialists. I believe all the problems that we are trying to solve unilaterally though military means could be taken care of 100x better diplomatically through strong alliances. I just don't like how the Republicans handle foreign policy.

Sara Palin-McCain shot himself in the foot on this one. And as Colin Powell said, what does this reflect about McCain's judgment?




I'll take these two together.  Here's SloJo on Obama's Presidency and foreign policy.
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Biden: The World Will Test Obama

Monday, October 20, 2008 4:10 PM

By: Rick Pedraza
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., speaking at a fundraising event Sunday in Seattle, said if his running mate Barack Obama is elected president, he will almost immediately be challenged with an international crisis that will test his strength and character.

“Mark my words,” Biden said, “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy.”

Biden said the world is looking at the 47-year-old senator from Illinois trying to figure out who he is and how he will deal with an international crisis of epic proportions.

“Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy,” Biden assured. “I don’t know what the decision is going to be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it is going to happen.”

Biden also made similar remarks at a San Francisco fundraiser the day before, ABC News reports.

“We’re going to face a major international challenge,” Biden said. “They’re going to want to test him, just like they did young John Kennedy. They’re going to want to test him. And they’re going to find out this guy’s got steel in his spine.” Biden said.

Biden asked the crowd to “gird your loins” and continue to stand by Obama as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular decisions regarding foreign affairs and the economy. Biden said no matter who is elected on Nov. 4, a difficult environment awaits the next president.



http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/biden_obama_crisis/2008/10/20/142273.html

He's telling us that the rest of the world is going to try to stick it to us if this tyro is elected because they think they can.  Some respect.  Some love.  Some why the fuck would anybody think this is good.  If you love the rest of the world so fucking much, MOVE.  Anywhere, I don't care.  I want somebody who represents me, an American, not Germany, not France, not Venezuela (butthole buddies:  Obama; Ayers; Chavez, nice daisy chain there, huh?).  I'll take Palin over either of these assholes.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9109822 - 10/21/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I support third parties obviously, but I'd rather see Obama win simply because this system is sadly 2 party, and the Republicans fucked up. It's that simple.

Even if Obama is wrong, I see him willing to change and adapt to new challenges. He is also a fresh face who can actually communicate to foriegn leaders, and hopefully reverse America's reputation. I seriously believe world leaders LAUGH at bush.

McCain will forge ahead on failed policies and continue to ignore the people including Joe the plumber and Mr. Six Pack, just like bush (who is such a failure and piece of shit I won't even capitalize his name).

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #9109852 - 10/21/08 01:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Why the fuck does anybody give a shit about America's reputation?  Does it do us any good when it is better?  I ask again, "By what tortured logic can you find any benefit in being a sycophant nation?"  They should kiss OUR ass, not us theirs.  That is to our advantage.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #9109856 - 10/21/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Even if Obama is wrong, I see him willing to change and adapt to new challenges.




that's called flip flopping, like when he said "Iran isnt a
threat" someone reminded him that iran is a threat and he
quickly changed his tune, he's done the same on numerous
issues, but hey, we can call that adaptability if you want



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He is also a fresh face who can actually communicate to foriegn leaders




as long as there are cue cards and a teleprompter

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
    #9109864 - 10/21/08 01:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Because Ron Paul is out of the picture and Bob Barr hasn't got a snowball's chance in Hell. I don't support Obama, I dislike him less than McCain.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9109875 - 10/21/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not talking about kissing anyones ass... I'm talking about not looking like a country full of bible thumping, gun toting Texas-drawl morons who wage war against brown people.

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9109903 - 10/21/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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that's called flip flopping, [blah blah blah] but hey, we can call that adaptability if you want




Yeah, and Republicans should learn how to have more... If this administration was even A LITTLE willing to change, maybe McCain would have a shot.

I see Republican supporters are no less dense.

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #9109917 - 10/21/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm not talking about kissing anyones ass... I'm talking about not looking like a country full of bible thumping, gun toting Texas-drawl morons who wage war against brown people.




The brown people of Africa seem to actually like us quite a bit.  And who the fuck are you, and the Eurotrash you love, to decide what faith is acceptable, what accent is cool, whether someone should have a gun?  My answer;  NOBODY.  Big capitals.  And you are as much of a bigot as numonkei, provincial tool that you are.  The Eurotrash are cowering in their beds over sharia and the murderous monsters who practice it and we almost entirely alone stand up and say, "No, this is wrong."  You can sip from the urinal of popularity.  I'd rather just be right.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9109925 - 10/21/08 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Wow... I don't even understand what that jibberish is supposed to mean. But you sound like a christian or something.

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #9109937 - 10/21/08 01:50 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

I am a militant atheist and that post was quite clear.  If you couldn't understand it, shoot a teacher.


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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: RoosterCogburn]
    #9109999 - 10/21/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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RoosterCogburn said:
If this administration was even A LITTLE willing to change, 




there's the thing, neither are actually willing to change,
they are willing to tell you what you want to hear

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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
    #9110002 - 10/21/08 02:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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I am a militant atheist and that post was quite clear.  If you couldn't understand it, shoot a teacher.




You sound militant alright! I just don't get the eurotrash references. :shrug:

Obama winning is going to piss you off, huh? :lol:

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