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Gijith
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9093563 - 10/17/08 08:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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The only decent bit Sal and Richard have done in a while.
-------------------- what's with neocons and the word 'ilk'?
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johnm214
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The_Red_Crayon said: What makes people think the democrats and Obama are going to end the war in Iraq?
Cuz they really want to!
I know they continue to do everything in their granted authority to extend and further the war, but that's just cuz if they excercise their one authority in this area and disallow further funding that means they want Bush to send inadequatly furnished troops to their death!
It's totally the same thing. Voting not to give bush money to spend for whatever purpose he wants (like buying guns and shit) is the same thing as voting to starve the troops or to kill them. Totally indistinguishable.
And the Dem's really don't like the patriot act, and corprate bailouts, and the rave act... They just voted for all those. Just cuz they vote for something doesn't mean they [Edit: don't] like it.
I mean, they told me so!
The dems for the last couple of years have pretty much said this:
You're too stupid to understand that when we vote against a bill it doesn't mean we disagree with everything in it, rather, it means as a whole we disagree with it or think that a better proposal should be held out for. But since your a retard and completely incapable of understanding the legislature (yet are somehow competent enough to elect us- go figure) you shouldn't criticize us for acting diametrically oposite of what we claim to be for.
Just vote for us. Don't worry that we do exactly the opposite of what our philosophy and words would suggest. Your too stupid to understand, just vote.
Sadly, with a great number of groups this seems to work. Blacks seem to blindly and impotently support Dems- which is percisely why they'll never get any help from them- politicians care about winning elections, which means undecided and weakly partisan voters i.e. see McCain's nomination.
Young folks seem to blindly spout nonsense like: Obama wants better schools (translation, obama wants to tax you and give you back what money he decides to give back and with whatever restrictions he decides to impose- cuz your too stupid to spend your own money). Obama wants healthcare (translation same as in the above, youre too stupid to spend your own money how its best spent and youre too stupid to democratically elect leaders that will do so as well). Obama wants *insert illegal and ill-concieved notion*;
Edited by johnm214 (10/17/08 09:14 PM)
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lonestar2004
Live to party,work to affordit.
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: johnm214]
#9093645 - 10/17/08 08:31 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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-------------------- America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure" We have "reckless fiscal policies" America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better Barack Obama
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pinkfloydms
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: lonestar2004]
#9093957 - 10/17/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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McCain and Obama are basically both shit. McCain has just as many bad quality about him if not more than Obama over the many many years as a senator. Frankly I don't see how any of you people support either one. You "supporters" need to wake up and see where democrats and republicans have taken this country over the last hundred years. Do you actually think that this country is in any way the form as what they wanted? Or what any American wants? Government in this country has gotten out of control and it's going to get worse, because of you so called "supporters".
If there is anyone who is unpatriotic or un-american, it's the supporters. You are the supporters of the true domestic terrorists.
-------------------- Muppet Said: so yeah: - 'sex' five times - once with a man - once with a cadaver - and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes) Best story ever! www.panicstream.com
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9094211 - 10/17/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Government in this country has gotten out of control and it's going to get worse, because of you so called "supporters".
really? I hope you're accepting your share of the blame, because in the words of bush,"you're either with us or against us". like the thought of change?
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Each year I get to celebrate Independence Day twice. On June 30 I celebrate MY independence day and on July 4 I celebrate America's. This year is special, because it marks the 40th anniversary of my independence.
On June 30, 1968, I escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later I was in the US to stay. That I happened to arrive in Richmond on Thanksgiving Day is just part of the story, but I digress.
I've thought a lot about the anniversary this year. The election year rhetoric has made me think a lot about Cuba and what transpired there. In the late 1950's most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right.
So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive. When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said "Praise the Lord." And when the young leader said, "I will be for change and I'll bring you change," everyone yelled, "Viva Fidel!"
But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because theye were now working for him. By the time the change was finally implemented Cuba had been knocked down a couple of notches to Third-World status.
By the time the change was over more than a million people had taken to boats, rafts, and inner tubes. You can call those who made it ashore anywhere else in the world the most fortunate Cubans. And now I'm back to the beginning of my story. Luckily, we would never fall in America for a young leader who promised change without asking, WHAT change? How will you carry it out? What will it cost America? Would we?
Manuel Alvarez, Jr, Sandy Hook VA
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pinkfloydms
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9094231 - 10/17/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not claiming innocence. But you will not find me doing anything to support the future fuck ups of our nation.
-------------------- Muppet Said: so yeah: - 'sex' five times - once with a man - once with a cadaver - and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes) Best story ever! www.panicstream.com
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9094255 - 10/17/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope you have a good cave picked out, take extra blankets, 58F doesnt seem cold, it's different when you're on rocks though
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pinkfloydms
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9094324 - 10/17/08 10:48 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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What you talkin bout willis. I live in the ozarks currently, there are caves all around us. I'm just tryin to find me one at the bottom of a mountain with a creek near it.
How bout you?
-------------------- Muppet Said: so yeah: - 'sex' five times - once with a man - once with a cadaver - and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes) Best story ever! www.panicstream.com
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: pinkfloydms]
#9094336 - 10/17/08 10:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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creek in the cave, full fledged river really, the river is 1/4 mile under rock and 3 miles back, no need to exit except to hunt I can run water to my location in the cave if I need to
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Annapurna1
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9095706 - 10/18/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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for the simple reason that sarah palin and her toadys (and that includes john mccain) have become very overtly fascist...
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zappaisgod
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Annapurna1]
#9095722 - 10/18/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perhaps I should direct your attention to a recent thread in re fascism. It's stickied http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9094010/an/0/page/0
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buckwheat
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
#9095918 - 10/18/08 11:49 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Perhaps I should direct your attention to a recent thread in re fascism. It's stickied http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9094010/an/0/page/0
I bet you could make a squeeze me talking doll with liberal talking points. And it would accurately predict their response 70% of the time.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: buckwheat]
#9095950 - 10/18/08 12:00 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I bet I could do better than 70%. They're not exactly a creative bunch
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The_Red_Crayon
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
#9096151 - 10/18/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Perhaps I should direct your attention to a recent thread in re fascism. It's stickied http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9094010/an/0/page/0
I knew that would come in handy.
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pinkfloydms
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
#9098476 - 10/19/08 12:21 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: I bet I could do better than 70%. They're not exactly a creative bunch
Yeah republicans are real creative.
-------------------- Muppet Said: so yeah: - 'sex' five times - once with a man - once with a cadaver - and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes) Best story ever! www.panicstream.com
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devious420
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9098518 - 10/19/08 12:40 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I Don't.
-------------------- Draft Beer, Not people!
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wildchild68
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: zappaisgod]
#9098573 - 10/19/08 12:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Perhaps I should direct your attention to a recent thread in re fascism. It's stickied http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9094010/an/0/page/0
Kind of like how you always claim Obama is a pure socialist.
Interesting how it works both ways, huh?
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Redstorm
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: buckwheat]
#9099139 - 10/19/08 09:05 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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buckwheat said:
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zappaisgod said: Perhaps I should direct your attention to a recent thread in re fascism. It's stickied http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/9094010/an/0/page/0
I bet you could make a squeeze me talking doll with liberal talking points. And it would accurately predict their response 70% of the time.
Let's not look through blinders here. The above statement applies to not only both parties, but pretty much every part in the US.
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georgeM
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: Prisoner#1]
#9099662 - 10/19/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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A former co-worker of mine lost her son in the war on terror. In the 2000 election I supported Nader under the assumption that both major party candidates were the same. At that time my co-worker's son was around 12 or 13 years old.
I support Obama now, eight years later, because I have a 12 year old son.
[edit]: almost forgot another reason, Obama smokes cigarettes.
Edited by georgeM (10/19/08 12:06 PM)
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Why do you support Obama [Re: georgeM]
#9099765 - 10/19/08 12:11 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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georgeM said: Obama smokes cigarettes.
Obama says he's quitting, but then he doesnt and then he is, but still doesnt
seems the only thing obama did is quit buying them and now just mooches smokes off the tax payers, seems Obama thinks all black people are entitled to something from "Whitey"
since there's currently no draft, I dont believe anyone twisted the kids arm to go fight in Iraq, and while it is tragic, it was his choice
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