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jellybrain
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mycelium strands in spore syringe
#9048162 - 10/08/08 02:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you get a spore syringe that has mycelium strands floating in the liquid, and you shake it well and inoculate some jars and all the strands are gone and you still have half the spore solution in the syringe...are there still spores in the solution or is the rest just water and wont "germinate" the other jars because it has no strands of mycelia in it (and no visable spores)?
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: jellybrain]
#9048205 - 10/08/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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from what i've read, it is still filled with the 'goods' but you cant see it... that all depends on how long you let your lc inncubate for also. I think you'll be fine. but I am no pro, just going off what i read
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: jellybrain]
#9048209 - 10/08/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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a spore syringe shouldn't ever have mycelia in it... if it does its no longer a spore syringe, and is now a liquid culture
those would be illegal for vendors to sell(at least for psilocybes)
like... idk what you're talking about hahahaha
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: fr33d0mfry]
#9048246 - 10/08/08 03:01 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am assuming he meant that he made LC and sucked it up in his old spore syringe...
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: Nuzzle]
#9048277 - 10/08/08 03:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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i see... well in that case, i have no idea lol
ive always had shitty luck with contams and lc, so i shant be giving advice
i try to stick with agar and g2g
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: fr33d0mfry]
#9048396 - 10/08/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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It happens - I know from personal experience. Spores can germinate in sterile water. The rest of the syringe is probably very good still.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: fr33d0mfry]
#9048414 - 10/08/08 03:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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fr33d0mfry said: a spore syringe shouldn't ever have mycelia in it... if it does its no longer a spore syringe, and is now a liquid culture Why not? - no its not quite considered LC cause its LACK of nutrients those would be illegal for vendors to sell(at least for psilocybes) your right, but it happens all the time like... idk what you're talking about hahahaha so why the misinformation j?
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: P.Menace]
#9049662 - 10/08/08 07:04 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.Menace said:
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fr33d0mfry said: a spore syringe shouldn't ever have mycelia in it... if it does its no longer a spore syringe, and is now a liquid culture Why not? - no its not quite considered LC cause its LACK of nutrients those would be illegal for vendors to sell(at least for psilocybes) your right, but it happens all the time like... idk what you're talking about hahahaha so why the misinformation j?
mmm, yeah lol dude you're right, i got some spores from lil' shoppe and i think they had germinated in the water because they colonized a pint jar in like 4-6 days
and, i really had no idea what he was talking about, wasn't trying to misinform, like, i didn't know if he was mistakenly referring to a LC as a spore syringe or what lol.
also, i might add, i've been rather fucked up for like 3 or 4 days without much sleep, so, anything i've said may have come out wrong, lol my brain is fucking liquid right now bro
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: fr33d0mfry]
#9049721 - 10/08/08 07:12 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I pint jar wont colinise that quickly from even from LC.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#9049792 - 10/08/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: I pint jar wont colinise that quickly from even from LC.
It for damn sure can.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: fr33d0mfry]
#9050656 - 10/08/08 09:21 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had a quart jar of rye fully colonize in 4 days with g2g is that to fast?
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: nykon]
#9051977 - 10/09/08 02:31 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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nykon said: I had a quart jar of rye fully colonize in 4 days with g2g is that to fast?
no such thing as "too fast"
obviously, some people on here seem to think that it's "impossible" for a pint jar to colonize in under 6 days or 5 or whatever
i know from cold hard experience that a pint jar CAN colonize in under 6 days, you say yours was 100% in 4, I believe it, because i've seen similar in some of my wbs jars and my pint pf jars, which all produced beautiful fr00tz 
I've never used rye, but i've heard compared to wbs it has similar colonization times.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: jellybrain]
#9052115 - 10/09/08 04:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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jellybrain said: If you get a spore syringe that has mycelium strands floating in the liquid, and you shake it well and inoculate some jars and all the strands are gone and you still have half the spore solution in the syringe...are there still spores in the solution or is the rest just water and wont "germinate" the other jars because it has no strands of mycelia in it (and no visable spores)?
When you make a syringe from a print you only see the spores on the top of the water in the shot glass. After the spores are stirred into the water they are still there you just can't see them with the naked eye!!
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: Steve]
#9052130 - 10/09/08 04:53 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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are we talking about a pint of pf tek or pint of grain?
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#9052194 - 10/09/08 05:44 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did it look like this?

I got it from Sporeworks last year and when it was a full syringe it had much more pronounced clumping. It was my first one so I didn't know what to think but it grew damn fast. If it had already germinated, I guess that's why. Those can't be just spores in there, can they?
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: roquet]
#9052204 - 10/09/08 05:51 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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That looks like mycelium. Spore clumping is black little specks.
A new syringe is usually pretty much clear.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: veda_sticks]
#9052220 - 10/09/08 06:03 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it wasn't spore clumping as I understand it. More like lots of little clumps of the grey wispy stuff in the pic. Not like LC clouds either. It was a new syringe at the time.
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: roquet]
#9052315 - 10/09/08 06:54 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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What you have there is a 3+ day head start. If you're not using the rest, I recommend keeping it in the fridge to help preserve the live myc.
Here's a bit of info I got from another user: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9017775#Post9017775
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jellybrain
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Re: mycelium strands in spore syringe [Re: nenl]
#9081121 - 10/15/08 11:58 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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this was from a syringe ordered from a vendor (not gonna say who because of the controversy it started), lets say i got it from overseas...anyway, I found out after the mycelium is gone there is still "goods" in the syringe because it did colonize the other jars with no visable spores or strands in the syringe, so I answered my own question it just took a few days for it to colonize to get an answer....thanks everyone
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