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DaBeerLover
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DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK *DELETED*
#9079766 - 10/15/08 03:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: DaBeerLover]
#9079768 - 10/15/08 03:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why are you using perlite in your casing layer. Perlite is for humidification not holding moisture.
Thats what the verm is for in you casing. Verm acts as a sponge holding moisture and releases it as mycelium needs it.
Perlite holds water on the surface which can evaporate into the air. I wouldnt use it in casing
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: veda_sticks]
#9079779 - 10/15/08 03:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have seen lots of people use perlite in casings and it gives it a little different texture, might help promote primordia, god is that all your doing....trying to get the TC tag arrgggghhhhh go away
he done a good job
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Juke Adro]
#9079783 - 10/15/08 03:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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After a search he is what I found
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Perlite works excellent in a casing layer in the large, course size. It works not by holding water, but by preventing clumping and providing lots of air pockets in the layer itself, which stimulates primordia. By mixing perlite with vermiculite, you get the best of both worlds. . .moisture retention in the verm, and air retention in the perlite. Ph balancing isn't necessary unless you add peat, which isn't absolutely required for cubes. Just don't try to grow agaricus or other edibles without peat in the mix, because they won't pin. RR
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Juke Adro]
#9079798 - 10/15/08 04:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah ive read one of Agar's logs and he made a casing with 5parts verm 3parts perlite 1 part coir etc and he said it worked out quite well didnt have to mess about with PH like with peat moss etc just down to preference i guess
Tried to find the log again but cant find it now lol heres another post from Agar regarding verm/perlite casing tho
www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6427085#6427085
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: darkrituals]
#9079808 - 10/15/08 04:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always thought that a small amount of perlite in a casing wouldn't be too bad an idea because of how people described coarse verm as fluffing and airing up a casing. I'm gonna use it on my next grow. Is 10% sound about right? I think that's slightly lower than what this poster uses.
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: ScavengerType]
#9079811 - 10/15/08 04:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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you learn something everyday!! i stand corrected.
And for your information, im not after the TC tag. I know that i shouldnt have it, as has just been demonstrated in this thread.
I still have a lot to learn
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: veda_sticks]
#9079815 - 10/15/08 04:34 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yea lay off him sometimes I get drunk and have no real friends to BS with too, yet consider myself too good to post in the pub or OTD, as well.
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: ScavengerType]
#9079817 - 10/15/08 04:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I reckon 10% should work a treat 
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The latter. Perlite is for humidifying terrariums and/or adding air and fluff to casing layers, and vermiculite is for holding water as a reservoir and releasing it to the mycelium as needed. Verm is used in pf cakes and casing recipes. It will also provide fluff and a rez effect(reservoir) in manure and compost mixes. A bit of perlite can also be added to casings, but then, it's to provide fresh air pockets that are conducive to hyphal knot formation. RR
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: veda_sticks]
#9079826 - 10/15/08 04:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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veda_sticks said: you learn something everyday!! i stand corrected.
And for your information, im not after the TC tag. I know that i shouldnt have it, as has just been demonstrated in this thread.
I still have a lot to learn
LOL I'm playing with you its just a joke but all jokes aside you do annoy me somewhat I actually think it that damn ugly avatar you have
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Juke Adro]
#9079829 - 10/15/08 04:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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The dialogue in this thread made me laugh.
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: wisp]
#9079841 - 10/15/08 04:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have to stop being a rude bastard, it's gonna backfire soon.
Anyway off topic
sorry OP nice tek 5+ for the effort
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Juke Adro]
#9079874 - 10/15/08 05:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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just realised that my mood has been drunk for the past few days,,,, oops
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Juke Adro]
#9079877 - 10/15/08 05:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just for the record Veda IMO you have given good advice so far, i am very new to this and i have asked a lot of questions in this forum & you have always answered with good advice:)
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: darkrituals]
#9086101 - 10/16/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Really informative, I like it, it has every step with a picture. great tek, Ill try it this weekend
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: Nicci]
#9086150 - 10/16/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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cool tek, am going to try this one out, because my 50/50+ kinda clumps up alot.
just a quick question though why do you have a cup of water inside the terrarium?? does that add more humidity inside??
i have a shotgun fc and its getting kinda hard for the Rh to stay up...
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Re: DaBeerLover's Casing Layer Part 2 TEK [Re: DaBeerLover]
#9086182 - 10/16/08 11:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've always been a fan of sterilizing my casing layers in a PC More less when using peat though .
Why are you placing the rubber seal up? If you're sterilizing , why not use the lid with the rubber side down , that way the jars would seal and could be stored for future use indefinitely?
Also , why are you applying the casing layer in a still air box? You're misting it with water to get the proper moisture content and then placing it in a FC . Not a very sterile environment so why not just make it easy on yourself and eliminate the box .
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