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xswaveyx
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When should i put these casings in FC??
#9055933 - 10/09/08 09:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, this is my first attempt at a casing.Ive grown on brf cakes and so far ive got decent results, i thought id try something new. I used this tek :
http://www.shroomery.org/50/Casing-101 and http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek
And i have 2 of the containers same size as shown, and a really small 3" round one that i made just to see what it would do. I split 5 half pint brf cakes into all 3, so basically the tray shown has 2 and half in it, along with a 1/2" or so layer of coir/verm. The other isnt showing as much as this one, but im not sure if im supose to wait until i see it ALL white, or if i should place it in the FC sooner? Check out pics:

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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9055965 - 10/09/08 09:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you already have them cased? you put them in the fc as soon as you case them.
if those aren't already cased then you didn't leave enough room for the casing layer.
and if they are cased then you have overlay like a mofo.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: grymmtymm]
#9056007 - 10/09/08 09:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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grymmtymm said: do you already have them cased? you put them in the fc as soon as you case them.
if those aren't already cased then you didn't leave enough room for the casing layer.
and if they are cased then you have overlay like a mofo.
I did just like the tek says to in the link, broke up brf cakes, put them on the bottom, then did the 60/40 verm and put it right ontop. did i do it wrong? will it still work?
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9056105 - 10/09/08 09:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah it will still work, and yeah you did it wrong.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Juke Adro]
#9056204 - 10/09/08 09:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Juke Adro said: Yeah it will still work, and yeah you did it wrong.
Haha, well after reading up on monotubs a lot i realized i should have mixed it all up, and then put more casing on when it got all white. But obviously its too late for that. Now what should i do? Let it get totally covered and put it right in the FC? Put it in NOW? Or let it get covered and then try to put on a thin layer of casing and stick directly into FC? Which would be the best route here?
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9056316 - 10/09/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now, and if you put a light layer over the exposed myc that's called patching I'd just slap it in as is
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Juke Adro]
#9056325 - 10/09/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Those should have been in the a fruiting chamber a long time ago.. like 1-3 days ago!!.. FRUIT THESE ASAP... otherwise your casing will be a nutrient layer lol..
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Grogan]
#9056444 - 10/09/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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eek. Okay i put all 3 in then. I thought i was supose to wait until it was full colonized. My bad!
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Grogan]
#9056567 - 10/09/08 10:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Grogan said: Those should have been in the a fruiting chamber a long time ago.. like 1-3 days ago!!.. FRUIT THESE ASAP... otherwise your casing will be a nutrient layer lol..
so... what if i did let it completely colonize like this? Could i then repeat the process of breaking it up into pieces, and then make more trays? Or could i use it to inoculate other jars? I put all 3 in today, however im very new to casings and imagine ill have problems with keeping moisture at the right level. Should i spray these when i spray my cakes? i mist and fan twice a day.sometimes 3 times. Im usings a PMP for FC.geolite,bubbler..the works.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9056932 - 10/10/08 12:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry mate but you just need to search a little more about casings. No you cant knock up jars with it.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Juke Adro]
#9056988 - 10/10/08 12:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well... should i expect any impressive results or did i pretty much blow it? i figuire ill get a couple but i was hoping for something better.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9057006 - 10/10/08 12:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I told you it will be fine no need to stress.
P.s. read that link.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: Juke Adro]
#9058026 - 10/10/08 10:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Juke Adro said: I told you it will be fine no need to stress.
P.s. read that link.
I did, i started at the top and read every word. I read the middle paragraph 3-4 times. From what i understand they dont tell you to mix it up either... unless i read it wrong? Its kinda hard to understand everything from a-z when its typed out like that.
Thats why i put the link in with my origninal post, so you know what i was reading when i did this.He broke up his cakes, laid them in... then applied a 50/50 layer ontop of it.
BEING A NEWB: to me that means: put cakes in bag, break em up, lay em in the tray... mix up your coir/verm mix... and apply that ontop of your cakes you broke up.Which is what i did...(i have a SMALL bottom layer of vermiculite as well i guess..(under the broken cakes))
Am i reading this wrong... or do i not know what the term 50/50 really means?
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9058120 - 10/10/08 10:43 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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xswaveyx said: Well... should i expect any impressive results or did i pretty much blow it? i figuire ill get a couple but i was hoping for something better.
You will be fine, casing is not a big deal. Casing is not necessary if you're growing cubes, but it will still help with water supply. I usually just put a thin layer of vermiculite over subs, about as much verm per square inch as a rolled pf cake. In my theory, it will help hold moisture, and provide some protection against water dripping or overmisting. Also the coir is more of a substrate, and if you use coir with the purpose of a casing layer, you should fruit asap or it will colonize like mad. If you use peat/verm for casing, then don't let it get too white because the mycellium will waste energy colonizing the non-nutritive peat and vermiculite. It's not a big deal though. might just cost you a shroom or two.
Also i believe (correct me if i'm wrong) overlay is just when peat/verm casing layer is completely colonized, and can no longer act as a casing layer. Shrooms will still fruit.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: T2K_Rusty]
#9058168 - 10/10/08 10:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: McMoney]
#9058196 - 10/10/08 11:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have been putting my casing in a dry place and cover with wrap let sit a day or two to dry out then place in fruiting chamber and mist like a mofo i also recomend using bottled water because the last two i have used with tap water i got contaminates after second flush
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: buritobomb]
#9058327 - 10/10/08 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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xswaveyx said: Well... should i expect any impressive results or did i pretty much blow it? i figuire ill get a couple but i was hoping for something better.
You will be fine, casing is not a big deal. Casing is not necessary if you're growing cubes, but it will still help with water supply. I usually just put a thin layer of vermiculite over subs, about as much verm per square inch as a rolled pf cake. In my theory, it will help hold moisture, and provide some protection against water dripping or overmisting. Also the coir is more of a substrate, and if you use coir with the purpose of a casing layer, you should fruit asap or it will colonize like mad. If you use peat/verm for casing, then don't let it get too white because the mycellium will waste energy colonizing the non-nutritive peat and vermiculite. It's not a big deal though. might just cost you a shroom or two.
Also i believe (correct me if i'm wrong) overlay is just when peat/verm casing layer is completely colonized, and can no longer act as a casing layer. Shrooms will still fruit.
Are you saying i should put a layer of verm ontop of them now? Cant hurt it right? Im pretty sure im probly getting some drips from my lid that will land on the casing too... kinda unavoidable while fanning/misting with my setup. This would help the situation right?i havent noticed anything go wrong because of it yet, but ive read its not good.
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buritobomb said: i have been putting my casing in a dry place and cover with wrap let sit a day or two to dry out then place in fruiting chamber and mist like a mofo i also recomend using bottled water because the last two i have used with tap water i got contaminates after second flush
all depends on your location. I used tap water and inoculated 7 half pints using spore prints, all 7 were good. I also inoculated 7 half pints using aquafina bottled water and the same print, and ALL 7 got green and nasty. I decided from there out i was going to use my tap water...i also use h202.
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9074362 - 10/14/08 12:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, this is what they look like today. Ive been fanning/spraying 3 times a day... i had pesa cakes that did pretty damn good, and theres still one cake of penis envy that got some little guys on it now. Do these look too wet? i often see moisture laying ontop of the white.Its hard to see in all the pictures but look at the last one and you can see how it is kind of "balling" up. Is this good?Any thoughts?


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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: xswaveyx]
#9074403 - 10/14/08 01:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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the balling looks like knotting to me if this is true you might want to fruit now i dont think it will colonize anymore after this happens(thanks RR for this info) i just had a tub that started to pin while still in spawn run so i decided to fruit it
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Re: When should i put these casings in FC?? [Re: noobieshroomie]
#9074407 - 10/14/08 01:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would yes
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