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OfflineTheCow
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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #7594085 - 11/04/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I have a PM from you saying that we can try and disprove or argue any idea presented in this forum. So I am puzzled as to why you would say that he should take his arguing to P&S

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InvisibleMiddlemanM

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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: TheCow]
    #7594103 - 11/04/07 10:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

As I've said before elsewhere, it's up to the original poster.

The original poster in the thread I PMed you about said he was OK with debate.
But personal attacks or overly harsh criticism are not allowed regardless.

I am the OP of this thread and I don't feel like arguing the UNPROVABLE.

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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #7594144 - 11/04/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

But you do feel like asserting the unprovable as truth? :strokebeard:

:hehehe:


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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7594165 - 11/04/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Why do people like you lurk this forum but never add anything INTERESTING or USEFUL?

You only post when you have something conceited, condescending or crass to say.

ALL truth is relative so there is NO TRUTH... only theories, suspicions, perspectives, observations, opinions, views - POSSIBILITIES and PROBABILITIES.

Read it again CLOSELY...

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Middleman said:

It is thought that the ancestors of dolphins lived on land in a time long past. Once the ancestors of dolphins started living in water, they found out that the medium of water was hard to see through – an object 10-15 meters away is the farthest a dolphin’s eyes can see even if waters are crystal-clear, not to mention dark or murky waters. So the ancestors of dolphins decided to possess an ability that would enable them to “see” with their ears by listening to echoes. Sound waves travel through water at a speed of 1.5 km/sec, which is almost five times faster than sound traveling through air.

A person of enlightenment used to consider himself the crown of the Creation since he was the only one who possessed reason. In the second part of the 20th century scientists started debating the issues relating to a dolphin’s intellectual powers.

Professor A. Portman at the Basel-based Institute of Zoology (Switzerland) came up with a scale for measuring intellect. A human being (214 points) was found to be the smartest creature of all. A dolphin was a runner-up with 195 points. An elephant (150 points) was rated as No 3. An ape arrived fourth with 63 points.

The following fill the slots at the bottom of the scale: a zebra (42 points); a giraffe (38 points); a fox (28 points). A hippopotamus scored only 18 points, and therefore was classified as the stupidest creature under the sun.

American neurophysiologist John Lilly has conducted experiments involving dolphins for many years. The scientist worked at his laboratory located on St. Thomas, an island of the Virgin Islands of the United States. The results of his research enabled Lilly to reach the following conclusion: the dolphin will the first living creature on Earth to establish conscious contact with the human being. That is the reason why the dolphin has a large brain with the cerebral cortex, a complex language and an ability to communicate displaying quickness of intelligence. A dolphin brain and a human brain seem to be two of a kind when it comes to certain brain characteristics e.g. the ratio of its weight to the body mass, the intricately folded cerebral cortex. Incidentally, humans use the above characteristics to prove intellectual superiority of the human race.

Lilly is confident that scientists will make enormous progress in many fields once verbal contact between humans and dolphins is established. Dolphins will be no longer used as guinea pigs. They will turn into scientists’ colleagues, making contributions to scientific progress.

“A dolphin brain is much larger that that of a human being. And dolphins use a very complex language while communicating,” Dr. Huskeway said. Dolphins have an inexplicable attachment to humans. There are dozens documented accounts about dolphins saving humans who suffered shipwreck. At a time when they lived on land, their intellectual development was probably even higher than that of the people from whom modern humans descended. The discovery helps us see the Golden Age myths in a new light. Almost every nation of the world had a myth of the Golden Age. The myth centers on a civilization whose members controlled the world in days of old. A great civilization of Atlantis, an island that is *said to have* existed in the Atlantic Ocean and to have sunk beneath the sea, is mentioned in the works of Aristotle and other scholars of ancient Greece.

Dolphins produce clicking sounds (localization pulses) to make the sound waves bounce off objects in the water and return to the dolphin in the form of an echo.

High-frequency sounds do not travel far in water. Low-frequency sounds travel farther because of their longer wavelength and greater energy. Echolocation is used by dolphins for determining distance to a very small target (5-10 cm) within close range (5-10 m). It is thought that dolphins can locate shoals of fish at an intermediate range (up to several hundred meters) by using echolocation.

Recent studies of Australian scientists indicate that Atlanteans, the people who lived on a legendary island first mentioned by Plato, *may have been* the ancestors of dolphins.

“No matter how weird it may appear, dolphins used to have two legs and a couple of arms in place of fins. They lived side by side with the people of the Stone Age,” said Dr. Leslie Huskerway, a biologist.

Researchers at Melbourne University conducted a research into the human DNA and that of marine mammals. Using comparison as a method of study, researchers found that the dolphin was the nearest relation of the human being. The dolphin *may have* parted company with Homo sapiens some 250 thousands years ago. Scientists have long known that the creatures had lived on land in the distant past. Their highly developed intellectual powers have always intrigued researchers.



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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #7594201 - 11/04/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

People like me? I'm the only person like me. :smile:

I was just having fun dude, lighten up. :sun:

Asking a question isn't a threat, nor does asking a question carry with it implications. You could have simply posted your third sentence. In response to that, I would simply speculate the value of having a perspective that can determine how plausible or reflective of reality a theory, suspicison, perspective, observation, opinion, or viewpoint is.

Of course, it isn't necessary for a theory, suspicision, perspective, observation, opinion, or viewpoint to fufill such criteria in order to be expressed. Everyone can read it for how it has presented to be and take from it what they will.

You stated that it was open for discussion, with the qualifier that personal attacks and overly harsh criticism are not permitted. I simply asked a question, "But you do feel like asserting the unprovable as truth?". I don't understand why you could have not stated, "No, I don't feel like that, but I do feel like expressing an unprovable theory, suspicion, perspective, observation, opinion, or view, without becoming consumed in arguing over something that is ultimately unknown". It would have made sense to me, and, as this is M&tP, it would be respected (In fact, I think one of the original intentions in creating the forum was empowering the original poster to set the guidelines for the discussion to ensue, and requesting formally in the rules that it be respected. I think it is a great idea. :smile:). :wink:

Wouldn't that have been a more effective course to take than by personally attacking me, taking the flow of discussion out of accordance with the guidelines you just outlined?


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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7594215 - 11/04/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not attacking you personally, I'm not harshly criticizing you.

I'm simply observing the fact that you and several other members have never posted anything interesting in here, but show up now and then with detractive quips.

It's frustrating, that's all.

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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #7594248 - 11/04/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not a detractor, and I'm an individual that cannot be interpeted through observations of others in such a manner, as though my actions are part of a trend or wave, beyond the trend of reality itself, of course. :wink:


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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #9057249 - 10/10/08 04:28 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I think this kinda thing is COMPLETELY plausible. I LOVE THIS SHIT!!!!!

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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #9065700 - 10/12/08 05:36 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

The tomato I just ate, used to look like a a tomato..

Give it 24 hours or so inside me, and it will look like crap..

Literally..

It would still be shit, not a tomato..

:tomato:

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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Gomp]
    #9067516 - 10/12/08 05:52 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

are we next? maybe we should all move to the beach and start increasing our lung capacity. :gethigh:


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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Middleman]
    #9070235 - 10/13/08 09:29 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone should definitely read Lilly's Programming and Metaprogramming in the Human Biocomputer: Theory and Experiments.  It's absolutely wild, but a little dry like another poster mentioned.

I've got almost all his works, including all his dolphin material, but have yet to read them.  I may start now.  :smile:

I was lucky to find all his books at a used bookstore and got a hell of a deal on all of them.

Truthfully, I just don't know what to make of the whole "dolphin predecessors  walked upright with humans in Atlantis" but since I wasn't there and have no idea, I really can't say for sure.  hahahha


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Re: Dolphins used to look like humans and lived in Atlantis [Re: Penguarky Tunguin]
    #9071459 - 10/13/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Penguarky Tunguin said:
I was lucky to find all his books at a used bookstore and got a hell of a deal on all of them.




lucky!
that's awesome,
i've been reading lilly ever since i was a teen,
finally i had the chance to try the isolation float last august,
three 1hr sessions, each one progressively allowing a deeper trance than the previous,
the sober experience itself is profound, how it is on LSD i don't know,
but thanks to him i have a fairly good idea. :smile:


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