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Clone selection and possible outcomes
    #9069975 - 10/13/08 07:57 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Alright I originally posted a long thread but I dont think I explained myself properly so Im editing to a shortened version. Mods if you feel this should be in general I apologize and feel free to move it.

It seems that in several different strains (not all) we see a growing trend to produce abundant small to medium sized fruits in first flushes, then in subsequent flushes the fruits seem to get larger and larger, although theres less of them ... until sometimes some real monsters show themselves in later flushes.

My question to you guys is this a byproduct of using multispore, in that the different sized fruits are simply different substrains showing themselves at different times throughout the cycle?

OR .... is it simply a overall growing characteristic. Simply put ... if I clone a medium sized fruit, theoretically EVERY single mushroom that grows from that substrate should be identical. Correct me if Im wrong but from what Ive gathered from reading peoples threads, this doesnt seem to be the case. It seems theres still some variation seen when growing from clone.

So if I clone from a medium size fruit will I still see the trend to produce larger and larger fruitbodies throughout subsequent flushes as we see with multispore?? Any of you guys that have cloned, have you seen this trend to still exist (of course in the strains that show this in the first place) ??



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Re: Clone selection and possible outcomes [Re: OZZ]
    #9070125 - 10/13/08 09:02 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Mycelium that tends to produce single fruits will normally produce fewer, but larger fruits in second and third flushes.  If you clone from a flush with single fruits, the products from that flush will tend to produce single fruits.

If you clone from a mycelium network that tends to produce clusters, future products from that clone will come in clusters.  For maximum product per square inch of surface area, you're better off cloning from a rapidly growing cluster, provided it has the other qualities you're seeking as well.
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Re: Clone selection and possible outcomes [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #9070149 - 10/13/08 09:09 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks RR, I revised my post while you were responding to me as I thought it was a bit long and maybe I wasnt making myself clear.

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Mycelium that tends to produce single fruits will normally produce fewer, but larger fruits in second and third flushes




So what your saying is that if I cloned a small to medium sized SINGLE fruitbody, I would still see small'ish type fruits first flush, with larger and larger fruits throughout subsequent flushes? Is the variation so great that you still see the random monster fruitbodies in late flushes that we see with MS ??


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Re: Clone selection and possible outcomes [Re: OZZ]
    #9075157 - 10/14/08 09:06 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

The biggest single reason for large vs small fruits is the moisture content of the substrate.  It's not a viable way to select cloning candidates.
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Re: Clone selection and possible outcomes (moved) [Re: OZZ]
    #9075160 - 10/14/08 09:07 AM (15 years, 3 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

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