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Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards
    #9068605 - 10/12/08 10:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I went out of town this weekend knowing that a harvest was going to be necessary while I was gone but I didn't really have any other choice.  I ended up staying later than I had planned and came back to find some big ugly bastards waiting for me.




Edited by nugjug (10/12/08 10:48 PM)

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9068614 - 10/12/08 10:24 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wow those are way over due man
BUT still good to eat:thumbup:

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #9068624 - 10/12/08 10:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Yea, you waited a little long, but hey who cares? Still good to eat.


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: MHbound]
    #9069406 - 10/13/08 01:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No mention of the strain?
what kind of shroomerite pornographer are you with out that info:lol:?


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: P.Menace]
    #9072515 - 10/13/08 06:50 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Hahaha.  I wish I knew honestly.  I inherited this strain through a network of friends.  Besides sub strains had been selected several times by the time I got my hands on a spore print to begin my work with.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9072780 - 10/13/08 07:42 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

wet weight ??

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: coc_diesal_MF]
    #9072817 - 10/13/08 07:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I don't typically do wet weight.  If I remember I'll try to throw the dry weight up when they come out of the dehydrator.  I'd imagine around 3oz give or take .5oz.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: coc_diesal_MF]
    #9079619 - 10/15/08 01:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Ended up at 216g dry.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9079678 - 10/15/08 02:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

nice man. i think they look cool when they open up fully and flat out, its kinda their natural cycle. still would have been a heavy flush if you'd picked em earlier. how big is that casing, whats your sub and how deep? aside from the mess of spores good job.


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: freetree77]
    #9080992 - 10/15/08 11:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I use a large cat litter box for the tray.  I can fit 4 of them in my mini greenhouse and it covers each shelf front to back end to end.  The substrate depth is about 4" with a 1/4" 50/50+ casing on top. 

I have two rabbits that use a litter box filled with Critter Country compressed wheat straw pellets.  The litter box is also where they like to eat their timothy hay. 

The substrate is a composted mixture of rabbit poo, timothy hay, and Critter Country compressed wheat straw pellets.  Basically it is a collection from their litter box that was aged a year and then run through a food processor to make the consistency nice and fine.  I then mix in about 20 percent vermiculite to fluff it up and help with water retention. 

It works just as well as horse manure and I don't have to go anywhere to get it.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9081125 - 10/15/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thats a 1/4 off of a half pound.:eek: Thats pretty damn good in my book. That would last me a year. lol

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9081253 - 10/15/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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nugjug said:
Ended up at 216g dry.




so the wet weight was over two kilograms?


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9081379 - 10/15/08 01:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

so why doesnt everyone let them grow out like this?  it gives you more weight, but the only detrimental thing I could imagine would be a spore mess?


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: djblackout]
    #9082970 - 10/15/08 06:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Grindem up and they all look the same.


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: djblackout]
    #9083277 - 10/15/08 07:47 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

... Because, it takes more of the big ones to do the job. Say you pick an 1/8 worth and dry them. Then you take an 1/8 worth of mature mushrooms and dry them; you're not going to get as stoned off of the mature dried ones. There is X amount of actives in a given mushroom through genetics. So you have X amount of actives in a mushroom that is perfect for harvest, but you also still have the same amount of actives, but in much more weight. So, if you want to be a jew, it would be a good idea if you're going to sell them. But that's lame.


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: misos]
    #9084140 - 10/15/08 10:11 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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... Because, it takes more of the big ones to do the job. Say you pick an 1/8 worth and dry them. Then you take an 1/8 worth of mature mushrooms and dry them; you're not going to get as stoned off of the mature dried ones. There is X amount of actives in a given mushroom through genetics. So you have X amount of actives in a mushroom that is perfect for harvest, but you also still have the same amount of actives, but in much more weight. So, if you want to be a jew, it would be a good idea if you're going to sell them. But that's lame.



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Yeah, you are basically eating more to get the same effects.  Most people don't like the way they taste so they prefer to eat as little as possible.  Plus once the mushroom has reached peak potency anything growing after that is wasting nutrients for later flushes.  So in effect you are actually getting less actives per run.  No bueno.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: djblackout]
    #9084157 - 10/15/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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....the only detrimental thing I could imagine would be a spore mess?




I had that happen with all 4 trays one time and I swear I was finding spores all over my grow room for months afterwards.  Big PITA.  Plus they can clog up hygrometers.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9084473 - 10/15/08 11:14 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

thanks for some of that info guys.  about mature ones vs picking right as the veil tears


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: djblackout]
    #9085681 - 10/16/08 09:30 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No problem.  That's just the way I prefer to do it.

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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: nugjug]
    #9085913 - 10/16/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If you have 2 identicle clones, and let one fully mature, while the other one you pick as the viel starts to tear; the fully mature shroom will have more actives and in turn, you will get higher.  It's true that the densiy of actives is slightly less in a fully mature shroom, but only very very slightly. The same dose is required by a premature shroom, for the same effects.


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Re: Poor Timing = Late Harvest = Big Ugly Bastards [Re: T2K_Rusty]
    #9087022 - 10/16/08 02:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It is my understanding that the level of actives is already preset before the veil tears.  Resulting in a fruit body picked as the veil tears contain more active per volume than a fully matured fruit. 

However that being said, I would agree that the dosing effect is probably negligible enough to not be noticed.  I have never really been able to discern a noticeable difference.  However older fruits seem to taste worse than ones who have yet to drop all their spores.

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