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Angel_Above
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Troll Bot]
#9069786 - 10/13/08 05:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mr.Al said: Have you positively identified it? My friend has told me that amanita muscaria has many deadly look-alikes.
That being said, I've never found it in the wild but I have bought it mail-order. Smoking it didn't do much. However, 15 grams (which were cooked in the oven to fix amanita's somewhat unhappy gastointestinal issues) had me in the tightest most intense time loops I have ever experienced.
I highly recommend you drink your own urine repeatedly throughout the trip. I used an empty gallon jug and drank copious amounts of green tea before consuming the mushroom caps.
Don't worry drinking your own urine seems perfectly normal when tripping on amanita's
Be safe.
For real? You drank your own piss????
Yeah... and now he wants us to drink our urine throughout a trip...
WTF
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thedudenj
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nah its not that hard eating em fresh you just gota not OD cause how strong they are. try eating just the skin when they are fresh it peels off like a sticker. you porbally might need 3 caps worth of skin tho. one caps worth of skin you feel it hits you then it goes away really quick leaving you going wow that was awesome but too short
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: thedudenj]
#9069980 - 10/13/08 08:01 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha nah mate i would actually prepare them and convert the ibotenic acid into muscimole and actually have a good time
About the whole urine thing, Muscimol is excreted unchanged in the urine in relatively large amounts, so basically drinking it after ingestion of amanita will get you high.
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Abuse
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Dizzwizzle said:so basically drinking it after ingestion of amanita will get you high.
Lol, I don't think I'll try that method!
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Bridgeburner
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Abuse]
#9070185 - 10/13/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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it's a common method, i didn't know people on this board weren't familiar with it.
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golden1
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I'd say the reason they're legal is because they're not commonly used nor abused. Salvia was legal, until it became popular on youtube/etc
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thedudenj
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Dizzwizzle said: haha nah mate i would actually prepare them and convert the ibotenic acid into muscimole and actually have a good time
About the whole urine thing, Muscimol is excreted unchanged in the urine in relatively large amounts, so basically drinking it after ingestion of amanita will get you high.
bro i know what you might of read but i tons of actual practice when it comes to eating them fresh with various people.... Ibotenic acid btw was showen to cause lesions when inject in the brains of lab animals. Unless your extracting it IC(inter-cerebrally) lol so any who...
any who. pretty much i have a lot of exp and exp with other people while using them. Ask lqdttrance about that as we picked and ate them raw at a shroomery gathering. We sure enjoyed it.
so wheres your info comming from that fresh isnt enjoyable. its important to note they must be blessed!,properly used(I.E. with the right intentions, and you cant fight the trip when you fight it things get rough
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: thedudenj]
#9070895 - 10/13/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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what about the lab animals? whats that got to do with ingesting ibotenic acid? lol. that info is straight from wikipedia mate I have never eaten them fresh though im not sure if i want to.... Just from stories ive heard. If you were to seriously (no shit) recomend them i might concider it, as i like the rough style trippin ya know
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thedudenj
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nah its pretty smooth as i said try peeling just the skin off one or 2 and eat just that.
any who. theres alot of silly stories out there and as i said their intentions might not have been pure my one friend at em as medicine and another ate em to get high lying saying it was for medicine one got sick the other didnt it was really funny after vomiting she admited her wrongs and said sorry they kicked her ass
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: thedudenj]
#9071239 - 10/13/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha i bet they did ill definately have to give it a go but only with a few others doing them too i think
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thedudenj
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qouting a medical document
1. Ibotenic acid and glutamic acid produce convulsions in immature rats, in which the blood-brain barrier is not completely developed (Johnston, 1973). 2. Muscinol has been shown to produce electroencephalographic alterations distinct from hallucinogens such as LSD or mescaline (which is in accord with the clinical observations). Neither ibotenic acid nor muscimol appears to act on receptors acetylcholine, dopamine, or 5-hydroxytryptamine receptors in the central nervous system. It has been suggested that both muscimol and ibotenic acid act similarly by activation of the gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA) receptor (Brehm et al., 1972; Walker et al., 1971).
http://inchem.org/documents/pims/fungi/pimg026.htm#SubSectionTitle:9.4.3%20%20Neurological 1.(Johnston, 1973). 2.(Brehm et al., 1972; Walker et al., 1971).
the qoute from wiki is from Ibotenic acid, a compound present in A. muscaria, has shown to be highly neurotoxic when injected directly into the brains of mice and rats.[48]
48.(Olpe HR, Koella WP (1978). "The action of muscimol on neurones of the substantia nigra of the rat". Experientia 34: 235. doi:10.1007/BF01944700.)
which are two seprate studies saying rats or mice. tho mine says pretty much only premature rats where the blood brain barrier isnt fully devloped so shrug
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Beege
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Dizzwizzle said: Oh yea thats real Im pretty sure ive also seen clips of him eating Amanita pantherina. Apparently theyre quite often used in shamanic rituals
so was this hawk guy performing his *last* ritual?
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thedudenj
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9071491 - 10/13/08 03:11 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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pantherina are pretty neat but i really dont suggest em they kick ass hard in a horrible death way. they dont physically kill you but still
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Beege
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9071497 - 10/13/08 03:12 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was talking about the A. Phalloides this guy ate.
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deadlynightshade
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9071548 - 10/13/08 03:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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somebody here made a muscaria tea and boiled it down into an extract and smoked it. they said they got really high. that would even convert most of the brain legioning ibotenic acid into muscimol. (being cooked for so long)
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Beege
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boiled it into an extract?
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deadlynightshade
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9071568 - 10/13/08 03:31 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Beege said: boiled it into an extract?
and?
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Beege
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can you explain how that would work?
an extract is when a solvent is used to dissolve a particularly appealing substance in a material.
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Beege
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9071601 - 10/13/08 03:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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so basically the tea would already be an extract of sorts. You would in fact be boiling down an extract. Not boiling it into an extraction.
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deadlynightshade
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Re: Amanita muscaria [Re: Beege]
#9074563 - 10/14/08 02:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh, you need to get all "technical" on me. haha. but yes, you boil the muscaria tea into a sludge of sorts.
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