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Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die.
    #905919 - 09/25/02 01:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well, I did it. I learned the PF tek. Then I used birdseed... Then I cased... Now I have colonized rye jars.

But I don't know what kind of a fruiting chamber to use. I read the FAQ, I read the growlogs, I looked a pictures. It seems that everyone is saying something else.

Here are my questions:
1) What would it be like if I got a plastic storage bin of some form, filled with substrate and cased it. Only humidification coming from the casing layer. there would be only a small amount of room between the casing layer and the top of the bin to avoid CO2 build up.

2) alternitively would it be better to put a few trays of casings in a storage bin? If so, why?

3) or maybe I need extra humidification. Cool mist?

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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906027 - 09/25/02 01:47 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

In reply to:

It seems that everyone is saying something else.



That's because there are multiple solutions to your problem. Pick something that is easy for you to accomplish.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #906031 - 09/25/02 01:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

There is only one right way!

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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #906036 - 09/25/02 01:49 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

/me jumps off of sears tower.


Fine here is what I am going to do, you tell me if it is a BAD idea.

Get 8 inch tall rubber made container.
Fill with substrate and cover with casing layer so that it goes up to the 6 inch mark. Mist, fan daily. nothing else.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906060 - 09/25/02 01:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think 8" is not tall enough for my tastes.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906061 - 09/25/02 02:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

however, it would seem to me that for that to work well, it maybe important to have a deeper bin than a longer one... make sense?


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906063 - 09/25/02 02:01 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Larry I do #1 and #2, they work great. just make sure you fan and keep the casing layer moist from misting.

I use a cool mist as well, it works great because it allows you to control the humidity in a much more precise fashion. I have learned to calibrate humidity to lower it from 95% to 87% once the pinning phase starts. It works wonderfully.. but to answer your question, you can case using either meatloaf tins or either make one big casing out of your rubbermaid.. just make sure to fan, keep the layer moist before mycelium pops up and expose to light.. then you're all set.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906069 - 09/25/02 02:03 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

You might also want to consider punching some holes in the sides of the container just above the substrate line and filling said holes with polyfill or filter cloth.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #906071 - 09/25/02 02:03 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

just go buy a standard 18 gallon rubbermaid.. that's prefect for what you need. I may take you 10-12 pints of birdseed for your substrate layer though.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #906077 - 09/25/02 02:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

that also works Mickey, but it's not necessary. just fan.. you'll have to fan anyway even with holes and polyfill.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #906082 - 09/25/02 02:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I disagree. I feel that it's very important to have proper venting. You want your RH to be in the 80-90% range when fruiting and the vent holes help to keep the humidity down. The moisture in the casing layer alone can easily work like perlite and bring the humidity in a sealed container to 100% RH very quickly.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #906088 - 09/25/02 02:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the plan is to use rye to innoculate dung and straw.

mickey, ok more than 8 inchs...still the THEORY is sound eh?


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906090 - 09/25/02 02:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yes it is.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906092 - 09/25/02 02:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What i would do is mix up a H2O2 solution (I think 9parts water 1 part H2O2 would be about right) and mist with that. Be sure to nuke the area around your box with lysol and try to be as clean as you can with the fanning...I am sure RoadKill or Mickey can be more exact...But I know there are many many ways to do it. But yours sounds simple enough...I'd go for it!

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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906100 - 09/25/02 02:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I just want to avoid humidifiers. I never have gotten one to work right in a setup.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #906106 - 09/25/02 02:13 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

actually until primidora forms you want your rh to be at 95%, then once it forms it is ideal to drop the humidity down to 85-88%.. anything below 85 is to low.. 80% would be way to low. with a cool mist you need no venting whatsoever. with no cool mist and using the casing layer as humidity all you need to do is fan 3 times a day, that's more than enough.. keeping the casing layer moist and misted nicely until mycelium appears will keep the humidity level at 95%.. then once it forms up around 30- 40% of the layer stop misting.. this will allow the humidity to drop along with fanning.. vents are ok.. but without air circulation I have found them to be not neccessary.


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906111 - 09/25/02 02:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don?t know if you?ve seen my results before or not, but I?ll show you two pics of crops that were grown without a humidifier. They were in an empty 30 gallon aquarium. Humidity was provided by the casings themselves, and a crack was left in the door to help maintain RH in the 80-90% range. I fanned them once every day or two.

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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906118 - 09/25/02 02:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Larry just buy an 18 gallon rubbermaid from Wal- Mart or Target, clean it out with rubbing alc..  spawn your rye grain or birdseed in it to 10% volume of the dung and allow it to incubate, shouldn't take that long...  when the dung is fully colonized case the fucker..  that's all you need to do.  It's really simple..  you can nuke the dung in the microwave on high for 10 minutes..  it's much easier that way, just make sure it's dried out first or you're in for a world of stink.      :grin:


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #906127 - 09/25/02 02:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

excellant mickey.

I know what i am going to try now, and i will bust out the digi cam and show you all how it goes later.  :grin:


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Re: Deciding on my first bulk setup. I want to die. [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #906131 - 09/25/02 02:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have seen those, and I believe I also commented and complimented you in the pictures forum when you posted them. They're kick ass flushes.. but i'd be willing to bet your humidity was always higher than 85%.. did you like the T3? what did you grow those on?


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