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Anonymous

Word up
    #905784 - 09/25/02 12:25 AM (19 years, 4 hours ago)

I have been experiencing a few problems via my isp so I haven't been online as much as possible. I have been reading a few threads and want to make a quick comment.

The political season is coming upon us. Since that is the case our minds will, from time to time, see correlations between the topics in this forum and politics. Side note political commentary is fine but it is not the focus of this forum nor should it be the focus of any thread. If a thread is turned into strictly political commentary it will be moved to the Political Discussion.

If you disagree with this decision please note your objections so that I can consider them and discuss them with the other moderators.

Thank you.

Cheers,


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #905811 - 09/25/02 12:35 AM (19 years, 4 hours ago)

I disagree, as long as there is a S&P connection it should remain here. My reasoning is that many of the people here don't look in the political area and the poster may have specifically want the opinions of the people that frequeant S&P. or maybe not.  :confused:


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invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
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mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
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Anonymous

Re: Word up [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #905825 - 09/25/02 12:41 AM (19 years, 3 hours ago)

Your objection is noted.

If a thread is opened on the pretense of a connection between a given political theme and something relevant to spirituality and/or philosophy and then turns into strictly political commentary it will be moved.

Was I unclear?

If we were to use your criterion a person could want the opinons of those that post here on cultivation and you would maintain it should remain here because of that reason. That is incorrect and it would be moved as well. Those that have political leanings shoudl learn to visit both forums as each has its place.

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Anonymous

Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #905885 - 09/25/02 01:07 AM (19 years, 3 hours ago)

How about morals and politics? What about political philosophy? For some, their political views are inextricably tied in with their philosophical views. While you are at it, will you be moving threads about aliens to OTD?

My point is that oftentimes there is not a clear distinction between politics and philosophy. There are moral and spiritual implications to political ideas that are too often ignored. Ideas have consequences, particularly political ideas, when backed by the coercive and violent power of governments.


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #905925 - 09/25/02 01:20 AM (19 years, 3 hours ago)

How about morals and politics?

Axiology is germane and so is its political aspect.

What about political philosophy?

If a subject is purely political it does not belong here. Political philosophy is a subset of politics more than it is of philosophy if you follow my reasoning. This is why we have a Political Discussion forum. Political philosophy belongs there and philosophy belongs here.

For some, their political views are inextricably tied in with their philosophical views.

Then they will have to chose, won't they? I have very strong political views but I do not discuss them here and they SURELY are tied to a philosophical viewpoint. I am readily able to bifurcate the two in order to remain within the boundaries of each forum.

While you are at it, will you be moving threads about aliens to OTD?

That is the subject of another thread. Red Herring and Missing the Point. Two logical fallacies at once. You are to be congratulated.

My point is that oftentimes there is not a clear distinction between politics and philosophy. There are moral and spiritual implications to political ideas that are too often ignored. Ideas have consequences, particularly political ideas, when backed by the coercive and violent power of governments.

The lines of demarcation are easily marked. I am not talking about grey areas. What in my posts indicated that I was?

Your objections are noted as well.

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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #905961 - 09/25/02 01:30 AM (19 years, 3 hours ago)

mmmmmmmmmm...................

Mr. Mushrooms. I am only a halfwit, not a complete idiot. thanks.

But what if a conversation is started relating to the spiritual aspect of growing ones own mushrooms....


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Sunset_Mission said:
"larry the scary rex
verily scary when thoroughly vexed
invoke the shadows and dust, cast a hex
mercifully massacring memories masterfully
relocate from Ur to 8th density and become a cosmic bully
mulder and scully couldn't decipher his glyphs
invoke the shadows and dust, smoke infernal spliffs"
April 24th 2011


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Anonymous

Re: Word up [Re: Larrythescaryrex]
    #906002 - 09/25/02 01:39 AM (19 years, 2 hours ago)

:grin:

This reminds me of a difficult decision I had to make regarding the shelving of a book I bought.  It was titled, The Philosophy of Teaching Typing.  Should it have gone to philosophy?  education? or typing?

Obviously it was a book concerning heuristic devices.  I shelved it accordingly.

Cheers, 


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #906184 - 09/25/02 02:35 AM (19 years, 2 hours ago)

Last time I checked typewriters were very good spititual guides.



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Re: Word up [Re: chemkid]
    #906427 - 09/25/02 04:32 AM (19 years, 7 minutes ago)

While you are at it, will you be moving threads about aliens to OTD?

I am not talking about grey...s

There we go with the aliens again. What about my fave, The Mantids?


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Re: Word up [Re: Swami]
    #906434 - 09/25/02 04:35 AM (19 years, 4 minutes ago)

I am not sure.  There is talk about creating a new forum just for the express purpose of discussing Mantids.  If they do create it we would have to move those discussions as well.

Sheesh, 10,000 comedians out of work and .........

Cheers, :wink: 


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #906442 - 09/25/02 04:41 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I don't envy your position here trying to reign in hundreds of unruly minds.

Rots of ruck!


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Anonymous

Re: Word up [Re: Swami]
    #906450 - 09/25/02 04:44 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

There really nothing to it. 

Back on the farm I used to herd cats so this is a similar venture. :wink:

Cheers,


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #906471 - 09/25/02 04:57 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Cats are aliens too


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Re: Word up [Re: Swami]
    #906475 - 09/25/02 04:57 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

you think this is rough? you should see the mess i have to deal with in the media room!  :blush: :wink:


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Anonymous

Re: Word up [Re: Shroomism]
    #906815 - 09/25/02 09:51 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

[makes telepathetic note to self]

I was so hoping you weren't going to bring that up. :wink:

Cheers to my fellow mod, 


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Re: Word up [Re: Smack31]
    #906819 - 09/25/02 09:53 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Not rough but I do not to head things off at the pass.

Must be my Injun blood, cemosaby. :wink:

I'll have to visit there when I get a spare moment.

Cheers to Smack (the preacher's wife) :wink:


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #907058 - 09/25/02 01:02 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

germane? it's such a wordier word than "relevant."


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #907096 - 09/25/02 01:33 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

release the bats


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Re: Word up [Re: Swami]
    #907198 - 09/25/02 02:19 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

What about my fave, The Mantids?


Hey now, what about the Reptilians?? Damn Garden of Eve brainwash!


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #907243 - 09/25/02 02:40 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Word up Mr. Mushrooms

Glad to see that the Shroomery makes frequent backups!  :wink:

I think political discussion does have some idealogical/philosophical elements, so we should discuss them here.
 


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Re: Word up [Re: vaporbrains]
    #907350 - 09/25/02 03:34 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Germane is my favourite Jackson.


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Re: Word up [Re: infidelGOD]
    #907500 - 09/25/02 04:36 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you IG! :smile:

Why do we have the political forum?

Cheers, 


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #907523 - 09/25/02 04:48 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know... to gather dust?

All they talk about there is why we should/shouldn't attack Iraq.

maybe such discussions can benifit from a spiritual/philosophical viewpoint.
nah..  it would just polarize the community even more. nevermind.  :tongue:
 


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Re: Word up [Re: infidelGOD]
    #907549 - 09/25/02 05:04 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Ever hear the expression, "Religion and Politics do not mix"?

If you visit the lovely Political Forum you will see a lot of polarization as well as downright flaming and insulting.  Not only is there a place already built for those that wish to engage in such behavior but if this forum were to take on those characteristics it would make our job as moderators much harder.

I don't like to come down on anybody but this place is a sanctuary where we all speak our minds and few flame.

I would like to keep it that way. :smile:

But there is nothing wrong with discussing the philosophical basis for politics.  Examples are:

1. Is the utilitarian method a sound one?

2.  Plato thought that the State should have the ability to ban certain types os music.  What is right or wrong about this idea?

3.  Are we our brother's keeper?

Examples of what not to discuss:

1.  The Democratic Party is filled with idealist idiots.  Why is that?

2.  Dubya is better than his Dad because he is so spiritual.

3.  Hillary Clinton is a atheist that's why she is so bad.

Need I continue?

Thank you for letting this ride.  Although I want us all to learn and exchange ideas, even in heated debate, I am not for people discussing things that are off topic and apt to upset the neighborhood without contributing to the prime directive of this forum which is Spirituality and Philosophy.

We already range off the topic when we lift each other up in love if we really want to get technical.  I have no problem with that as it promotes learning about ethics from a personal basis.  Besides that, we all need a hug sometime. :smile:

Cheers,   


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #907783 - 09/25/02 07:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

i agree with you... downright politics should remain in the respecting forum...


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Re: Word up [Re: In(di)go]
    #908662 - 09/26/02 01:20 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you Lozt Soul! :smile: 


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Re: Word up [Re: ]
    #909911 - 09/26/02 03:22 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

you are welcome!  :laugh:


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