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I was arrested while tripping
    #9057617 - 10/10/08 08:27 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Im facing two felony charges; 1st degree burglary and assault and battery on a LEO.

Long story short... I was "dead" and jumped through my buddies living room window from the outside, hence the burglary charge.  In my head I was evading the "dark side".  I didn't want my new soul to corrupted by satan and his cronies.

I made my way into their bathroom and reassumed my seat on the toilet where I had been all night, naked.  I wasn't sure if the blood was real or not.  It seemed like a few minutes later the dark knights (police) are busting through the door to "get me".  I reacted like many a scared animal would and fought them.  I wasn't going with the dark side.

I've talked to my lawyer and he suggests I find an expert on the effects of psilocybin and how it can induce temporary insanity or more importantly in this case, blackouts.

I need help.  Does anyone know where I should start in the search for an expert of this kind?  I know NORML has these kind of connections but specific to psilocybin?

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057646 - 10/10/08 08:38 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like you had a hell of a trip - nothing even close to that has ever happened to me while tripping. 

Don't know any experts though... good luck.


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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057660 - 10/10/08 08:41 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Uh... I don't agree with the likely punishment (I'm assuming you're facing jail time), but the charges you, imo, deserve. If you can't handle yourself you shouldn't be tripping. It's people like you that cause this shit to be made illegal which harms the rest of us. Good Luck man, I feel for you, but it's your own fault.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: krypto2000]
    #9057670 - 10/10/08 08:43 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Very true.


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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: krypto2000]
    #9057678 - 10/10/08 08:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Do what you gotta do but this kind of shit is why the social stigma of psychedelics exist and imposes laws on the rest of us.


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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: jenns_hot]
    #9057683 - 10/10/08 08:45 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

im sorry but EL OH FUCKING EL

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: PreparationH]
    #9057718 - 10/10/08 08:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

How much of what did you eat btw and why did the cops get called because you busted through your friends window? Did a neighbor call because they're scared and can't mind their own business or did your friend call?

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: krypto2000]
    #9057775 - 10/10/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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krypto2000 said:
Uh... I don't agree with the likely punishment (I'm assuming you're facing jail time), but the charges you, imo, deserve. If you can't handle yourself you shouldn't be tripping. It's people like you that cause this shit to be made illegal which harms the rest of us. Good Luck man, I feel for you, but it's your own fault.




I admit full responsibility for the situation I put myself in and my lack of better judgement.  To be honest, I now agree they should be illegal.  I don't agree with their scheduling but its not a drug to play with.  Given their positive reputation as a fun "lovey hippy" drug, I see the potential for many a youngster to wind up in my situation.  These police officers and being arrested potentially saved my life.

My friend's girlfriend was who called, or so I assume.  I was reading the charges filed and she signed as a witness.

Anyone know of where I should start looking for an expert?

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057793 - 10/10/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I forgot to add, by the time I had no idea of what mushrooms were I ingested right around 10 grams.  Started off with 3 fresh and made a 7 gram tea for everyone to share.  I've been told I was the only one who drank the tea and ending up finishing it.  The others with me were satisfied after their initial 3 fresh.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057795 - 10/10/08 09:16 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

How much did you eat?

edit: ^^^ n/m, posted at the same time.

edit2: So have you eaten that much before? I mean, you already admitted it so I'm not trying to beat a dead horse, but it sounds like you likely dosed irresponsibly too. I mean, you can chug a bottle of vodka and get alcohol poisoning and die yet alcohol is totally legal. Just sounds like you ate too much and freaked out. Your not 'supposed' to eat so much. That's like saying nails should be illegal because you hammered one into your skull.

edit3: I don't know where you'll find an expert to help you btw. I'd think most people would want some kind of payment and it's likely not worth their time. I'd think of going to talk to a Dr. or a psychiatrist perhaps. That's where I'd first look. If they can't help maybe they can help you find someone who can.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: krypto2000]
    #9057841 - 10/10/08 09:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No, I had never taken that many and have never had those intentions.  These were GTs and the first 3 kicked harddd.  I was out of my realm after 1.5 hours.  I remember drinking the tea but at the time I didn't compute the magnitude of what may occur.  Also, not in defense but FYI, right as we were peaking, a drunken buddy whom had opted for a party that night came over and guilted us for not waiting on him and shorty left in anger.  His presence alone was enough to shatter my mind.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057844 - 10/10/08 09:34 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

So have you talked to your gf? I'd be pissed if she called the cops on me. Not sure if I could blame her all the same though, you did break through a window lol, but still.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057858 - 10/10/08 09:37 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:
Does anyone know where I should start in the search for an expert of this kind?



A psychiatrist, check your local yellow pages.

I just reviewed a few cases where insanity due to hallucinogens as a defense in criminal cases, and the experts (defense and state) are always psychiatrists.

If you live in Vermont insanity due to illegal drug use is not a viable defense.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057864 - 10/10/08 09:39 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous said:

My friend's girlfriend was who called, or so I assume. 




Hell to the NO.  Lawyer advised against it..

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Chemy]
    #9057875 - 10/10/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you, Chemy.  Do you have an idea of what it might cost to have a psychiatrist make an appearence?  My state laws are similar but I'm scrambling to make for a lesser blow.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Chemy]
    #9057887 - 10/10/08 09:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

MODS: please lock this thread

I've found the info I need and don't want a free for all.

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9057888 - 10/10/08 09:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I'm not sure whether your state or judge will allow an IFP (in forma pauperis) to pay for an expert witness.

The first battle will be finding a psychiatrist that will testify for you in your favor, then find out how much the cost will be, which I assume you will have to pay.

Good luck and take care of yourself (stay away from hallucinogens)!

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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Chemy]
    #9083801 - 10/15/08 09:11 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, Yeah man.  I'm done with this hobby until I move from here and have a more experienced and chill group of friends.  Some people absolutely lose their shit..I really cant imagine how because they dont affect me like that or hardly at all usually.  Apparently Shrooms are one hell of a drug because I know someone that flips the fuck out like you.  But I've now eaten 20 dried grams of the same shit that this dude with me ate 3.5 of..yet I was the one holding him down keeping him from jumping out windows and running around in the parking lot and shit.  Me and my real tripper cohort here can handle any amount and its just a pleasant mind opener with some mild visuals and a damn good night of laughs.  But holy fuck its a different animal to some people.. .


I just cant personally understand how any substance could send a person into psychosis like that...Ok..I retract that, I've done shit I'd never do sober while blacked out from booze..  The only thing bad to ever come from me and my tripper partners heroic doses is some nausea. .but even that was kinda funny.  And probably avoidable if we hadn't lemon tek'd a pile.  We stay cognitive, reasonable and safe.  The closest thing to a bad trip I've had was when for some reason I got stuck thinking of the legal penalties of what I was doing and getting paranoid..But all that would have came of it was me destroying my stuff..which honestly could only be a good thing still lol.  Buuutttt there theres people like the OP here..Somethings just wired different in your head man..I dunno.


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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: the_0wl]
    #9095193 - 10/18/08 03:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Wow, Yeah man.  I'm done with this hobby until I move from here and have a more experienced and chill group of friends.  Some people absolutely lose their shit..




Yea, when I used to, I could be completely out of my head, not know what is going on, but I would remain pretty calm. I've had a few 10 seconds flip outs. But nothing major.

Like one time on mushy i started feeling it at 5:00pm, 4 or 5 hours later I look at the clock, and it's 5:25. I flipped out and jumped back and pinned myself to the wall for a few seconds while I had to figure out reality. (really felt like 4 or 5 hours)


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Re: I was arrested while tripping [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #9095762 - 10/18/08 10:48 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

WoW!  That is a crazy story!  I mean I have tripped to the point I thought I was going to go crazy and all I did was curl up into a ball in the corner of my room on my bed when I was younger.  But I have had trips were you deal with "Good and Evil" and shit can get out of hand really quick.  I do agree with one of the previous posts that it is your fault because you kind of went over board on the dosage so you can't blame the mushroom just the previously coherent user and I also agree with you that your buddy who left angry could have triggered a guilt effect which made you feel as if you were a "bad" person in which you had to escape from in order to enjoy your trip.  I do not agree with the fines and penalty's of the law for these incidents.  At most I think they should make you pay for the window and any blood stains you left in the carpet.  LMAO  Honestly.  Jail time and taking money out of your pocket only sets decent people up to become "real" criminals.  If you are treated like an animal at some point you loose yourself and begin to act like one (even though we really are animals yet not "wild").  The system is fucked if they think their methods are any where near helpful!  The best advice I had seen on this forum I copied and pasted below.  Just hang your head low like a "bad dog" and do what you can to make yourself look as if you are a "proper person".  I REALLY wish you luck man!  And don't fault the shrooms.......please.  I find that offensive.  :undecided:

"I began to research laws and learned about Booker variances (lesser sentences) for extraordinary rehabilitation.  I found out what others did to earn this, and began to do the same.  I started attending NA (even though I am not addicted to any drug, I lied and played along with it), I did community service, I got myself drug tested, I got on antidepressants, I started psychology counseling, all on my own volition so I'd look good and be able to redeem myself in front of the court."


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