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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: veda_sticks]
    #9062454 - 10/11/08 09:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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veda_sticks said:
micropore is cheap...




Where do you get micropore, and what is it [commonly] used for? Do they have it at lowes or homedepot? I asked at both stores and of course the guy looked at me like I was asking for f'n dilithium crystals or something. However knowing the caliper of employee at those kind of stores, I'm sure even if they did have it they wouldn't know anyway...

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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: CDS]
    #9062465 - 10/11/08 09:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

it's a medical tape...

should be right next to the bandaids.

so you will find it in drug stores, grocery stores and stores that have health care products.


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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: Roadkill]
    #9062593 - 10/11/08 10:47 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks for the links to the n00b threads, but no thanks. I've read through all it before but I just haven't retained the information which is why I'm finally doing it as a "hands on" approach.

Before I cooked up the jars, I followed this just for a visual guide


I saw some discussion of the jars not being able to breathe due to the double layers of foil - but this guy doesn't seem to have a problem with it. Which is why i thought it should be okay. Shroomery doesn't seem to think so. Yes I shook my syringe, and no I didn't flame it more than once.

And to be honest, I'm not dedicated to growing mushrooms. I'm not that far yet. As far as I'm concerned it's a small hobby and I'm not ready to dig too far into it.

This just turned into something way too complicated. I just wanted a few simple answers as to why this could be, but it's appreciated...

edit. i keep gettin' bad vibes...I'm just trying to get people on the same level as me. I realize that I will probably end up buying micropore tape, but I just don't want to do that yet & I just wanted a temp fix for this.

Edited by illusionn (10/11/08 10:55 AM)

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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: CDS]
    #9065775 - 10/12/08 06:32 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

OK, this is how I'm reading this.
Micropore tape is NOT needed if dry verm is used from the git-go.  Since you neglected to use the dry verm layer, it was suggested that in the future you use the tape to keep contaminants out(after innoc.).  I guess you could also have used tyvek paper wrapped around the jar lid with a rubber band.  Again, to keep contams out AFTER inoculation.  I read that you forgot the verm layer, just don't forget next time and the use of the tape would not be needed.  If you do forget again, USE the tape while incubating to keep out contams.

Am I correct here?


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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: saved by zero]
    #9066361 - 10/12/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

What? I didn't mention anything about a dry verm layer. Yes I do have it. My bad if I forgot to say that before...

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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: illusionn]
    #9066768 - 10/12/08 01:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well what mixture did you use? Maybe it's not uniform throughout the jar. The video you posted just says to mix water/verm, then brf. Did you do 2 parts verm, 1 part water, mix, add 1 part brf and re-mix?

How many CC's of spore solution were used in the jar? 1cc per half pint, is about what you should use.

Elaborate more on the grey spots you speak of. This could possibly be a type of mold, like cobweb. Cobweb can be very thin and spread incredibly fast, fully colonizing a jar before germination even happens. If this is the case, the substrate is held by the cobweb and those parts will not colonize with shroom mycellium.


Has any more growth happened in the suspect area of the jar?


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Re: How is this - brf cake [Re: T2K_Rusty]
    #9066922 - 10/12/08 02:39 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)




I decided I'd upload a picture just to show a little bit. The side you see is the only side with any growth whatsoever.

I used roughly 2cc's. I'm pretty sure this glass is a little bigger than a half pint jar. Figured it'd be perfect because it's tapered.

Maybe the mixture isn't uniform. I remember measuring out amounts and mixing it as I should have, but this was my first time doing it so I don't know.

I'm 100% positive I don't have any contams as of now. The gray spots I mentioned just looked like beginnings of mycellium but I am not sure because none of it has grown.

I also highlighted a spot that I have just seen since yesterday that is separate from the other growth. Kinda stumped as to why this is also on this one side of the jar... This seems like it's going to take a lot longer than it should to colonize.

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