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 Re: Your god is a cruel god.  [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049040 - 10/08/08 05:11 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049056 - 10/08/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
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Your words show anger towards the truth. Perhaps you can use the free will that God gave you to muster up a coherent counter-argument?
i did. the simple statement that anything good or evil befallen upon man was the will of god and a test of our faith is the biggest cop-out ever.
Saying that X is a cop-out is not a coherent counter-argument. Explaining why X is a cop-out, and why X is false would be a coherent counter-argument.
because the singular god that the western world knows was not the first god, nor the first religion.
http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html
and X is a copout because you could use this same sentence to reply to any question asked: "because it is gods will".
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049061 - 10/08/08 05:15 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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and X is a copout because you could use this same sentence to reply to any question asked: "because it is gods will".
The beauty of theology is its irrefutableness. 
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049084 - 10/08/08 05:20 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Again, you're unnecessarily anthropomorphizing the properties that God may or may not have. As an ineffable being, he is beyond any attempt at characterization that we can try; as is shown by the contradictions inherent in your argument that tries to do so.
How do you know a superpower has no need for sexual organs?
what do you mean ineffable? god is a middle aged white dude with a long flowing beard and wears a really clean toga and sits on a golden throne..... i mean thats what my childrens bible taught me. 
why would an all powerful being need to reproduce? why would it need reproductive organs? why would it need any organs at all? it certainly wouldnt need lungs, since ya know.... heaven is WAY up there and probably beyond the boundaries of the atmosphere.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049095 - 10/08/08 05:21 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The God from Judeo-Christian tradition never denies the existence of other gods; He only wants his worshippers to hold Himself before any others.
so says the men that wrote the bible.
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049104 - 10/08/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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and X is a copout because you could use this same sentence to reply to any question asked: "because it is gods will".
The beauty of theology is its irrefutableness.
lolz.
*cough*cop-out*cough*
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049114 - 10/08/08 05:25 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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let's imagine this: a person is born outside of its culture. he's born in the jungle and raised by wolves. his entire life goes by and one day he dies by getting gored by a boar.
does god apply to him? i mean, god is an idea that you learn by other people. if no one would talk about it there would be no god.
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the ancient egyptians believed that "god" resided on the same plane as any human, and that he lived and died in a natural manner like any mortal. and that the pharaoh (king) was god incarnate.
perhaps your god was a mortal man.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049126 - 10/08/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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leftysurprise said:god is a middle aged white dude with a long flowing beard and wears a really clean toga and sits on a golden throne..... i mean thats what my childrens bible taught me.
I would really like to see the exact passage and verse where the Bible states this.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049141 - 10/08/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
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leftysurprise said:god is a middle aged white dude with a long flowing beard and wears a really clean toga and sits on a golden throne..... i mean thats what my childrens bible taught me.
I would really like to see the exact passage and verse where the Bible states this.
No exact bible passage, just the generally accepted view of him as proven throughout history in paintings and writings and epics.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049147 - 10/08/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think I just threw up a in my mouth a little. How many excuses does God need to make sense? He shouldn't have needed the first one if he were real.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#9049148 - 10/08/08 05:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said:
let's imagine this: a person is born outside of its culture. he's born in the jungle and raised by wolves. his entire life goes by and one day he dies by getting gored by a boar.
does god apply to him? i mean, god is an idea that you learn by other people. if no one would talk about it there would be no god.
even better question, does hinduism apply to every living human being, since you know... it was founded no less than 500 years before judaism and 2000 years before christianity?
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049157 - 10/08/08 05:30 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
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b0red5tiff said:
let's imagine this: a person is born outside of its culture. he's born in the jungle and raised by wolves. his entire life goes by and one day he dies by getting gored by a boar.
does god apply to him? i mean, god is an idea that you learn by other people. if no one would talk about it there would be no god.
even better question, does hinduism apply to every living human being, since you know... it was founded no less than 500 years before judaism and 2000 years before christianity?
well first you gotta define "human". good luck 
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049160 - 10/08/08 05:31 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also, if god is real, there is no free will, just a pre-fabricated reality. If one were omnipotent, the only person with free ANYTHING would be the one that held that power.
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i stuck ice in her ass and pussy
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LeftyBurnz
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: deCypher]
#9049169 - 10/08/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
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leftysurprise said:god is a middle aged white dude with a long flowing beard and wears a really clean toga and sits on a golden throne..... i mean thats what my childrens bible taught me.
I would really like to see the exact passage and verse where the Bible states this.
if i still had my childrens bible i would show you.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049174 - 10/08/08 05:34 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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even better question, does hinduism apply to every living person, since you know... it was founded no less than 500 years before judaism and 2000 years before christianity?
fixed.
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
#9049225 - 10/08/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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non-daulist hindu philosophy is very interesting.
It makes almost perfect sense and besides the part about
reincarnation seems more like a science than a religion or faith.
And yes "Hinduism" in general is accepted as the worlds oldest modern religion.
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isn't reincarnation considered a curse/punishment, at least in buddhism?
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: Bridgeburner]
#9049281 - 10/08/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said:
isn't reincarnation considered a curse/punishment, at least in buddhism?
Not a punishment, a natural cycle until one reaches enlightenment.
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j2012b said:
i stuck ice in her ass and pussy
(The above is on the subject of a drug overdose.)
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Re: Your god is a cruel god. [Re: LikeButter]
#9049298 - 10/08/08 05:57 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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isn't reincarnation considered a curse/punishment, at least in buddhism?
Not a punishment, a natural cycle until one reaches enlightenment.
isn't being born again as an ant punishment?
well, there is no PUNISHER in buddhism like Yahweh in christianity but thats why buddhists want to do good deeds, because they watch over themselves without creating an outer image of a higher power.
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