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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: ]
    #905833 - 09/25/02 12:45 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Nice to see you posting here more! :smile:

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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: ]
    #905990 - 09/25/02 01:36 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

what grand arrogance you have in thinking we cant destroy nature. so what right do we have in creating the greatest rate of extinction in world history? sure species through time kill off other species and of course their is no god to answer to about what is right and wrong but should we be acting like we are the only thing that matters in the universe?


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: 1stimer]
    #906443 - 09/25/02 04:41 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

We can destroy.. we can destroy each other, we could destroy Earth even.. Nature is eternal.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Shroomism]
    #906448 - 09/25/02 04:43 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

...but some threads live on forever. :smile: 


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: 1stimer]
    #906760 - 09/25/02 08:28 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

should we be acting like we are the only thing that matters in the universe?





are we?
or are we simply a result of nature, as are our actions? read the original post, and stop thinking everyone thinks we should drive ourselves to extinction and take everyone else along with us.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #907570 - 09/25/02 05:13 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

then what are you debating? the definition of the word natural or are you trying to justify destruciton. what is your point? that everything is justified no matter what it is? look beyond the word natural. there is probably a better word a word that needs to be invented to describe living outside the balance of life on earth.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #907574 - 09/25/02 05:16 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Self-destruction is probably unnatural.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Shroomism]
    #907579 - 09/25/02 05:20 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

are you saying life is insignificant or that life doesn't exist as we think of it. i look at life and marvel at it. i do not wish to destroy life and i dont think others should either. sure nature is eternal but life isn't if we destroy it. it will eventually come back however but we wont be around to comprehend it. i find that there is something sacred in having a consciousness and i dont think we should make extinct other life and its consciousness because it is sacred also.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: 1stimer]
    #907687 - 09/25/02 06:17 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

"Nobody deserves to die."

actually, we all do, we are mortal


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: crystalhuman]
    #907893 - 09/25/02 08:01 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

actually, we all do, we are mortal


our bodies may be... but WE are not...
in fact, our bodies were designed to last forever, we just don't take care of them...


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: ]
    #907899 - 09/25/02 08:03 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

In reply to:

Nature and life will unfold as it should. Anyone who thinks that they can control or conquer nature is a fool. Our role as a sentient species is to understand how to properly comply and work with nature to our benefit, if we fail to do so we will go the way of the dodo.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: crystalhuman]
    #908097 - 09/25/02 09:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

just because we will die doesn't mean we deserve it. nobody deserves to die is a statement against capital punishment not the life cycle. besides, we are finding ways to live longer and longer and whos to say someday we will physically be eternal.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: 1stimer]
    #909068 - 09/26/02 04:17 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe, 1st, "sustainable" is the word you were thinking of before. Its being used a lot today, and is very appropriate,
(refering to being in 'balance' with the natural world.)
Many of our technologies are "unsustainable", same holds for our behaviors, lifestyles and so on. This term is outside of symantics and subjectivity. It is where somthing can NOT continue indefinitly...like the use of fossil fuels. Like our blooming populations, or continually increasing GDP's.
Albino seems to think technology isnt being focused approprietly....and if this were to commense, things may be peachy. Yep, weve found certian bacteria that can eat oil spills...but to me its obvious that technology is power, power and control over our 'natural' habitats is what got us into this great mess. Some of you want to call that part and parcel of evolutuion. Yes, our inherited instincts are the cause for our behaviours and conditions, and if we know that, than nothing we do should be trusted. There has been no real time for biological evolution to mean anything when we are speaking of technology, the type of evolution here is cultural, and its to such an extent that people are beginning to refer to technology itself as seperate from us, or even self-evolving. I don't give two shakes to the puritanical definitions and boundaries that humans insist on placing everything into...I do know that destroying NATURE is horrible, irregardless of how you define nature. I do know that the poster seems to have a clear cut distinction between cities and nature. Take some of you own points that you were trying to make, and realize that cities are leveling sites of where "nature" used to flourish, that cities are contiually expanding, and that the environmental degredation that you suspect of those whom live within nature, is surely as considerable to that which cities represent. Try looking at any human development, especially city centres, and just take one moment to relect on what it USED to be, a very short time ago. It is obvious to me that those of whom havnt had any access to "nature" (poster; non-cities, non-suburbs, non-argriculture monocultures), clearly have major rifts in a conscious understanding of what kind of a world we live in. Without nature we are unsustainable to ourselves, technology can never keep us alive nor content. When we destroy natural habitats we are destroying ourselves and all other life, we are not putting in place some 'other' form of nature. --Ec0


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: In(di)go]
    #909110 - 09/26/02 05:07 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

Body... just a vehicle for experiencing the physical
Spirit... lives eternal,
we are one forever being, split into trillions of perspectives of consciousness designed for gaining different levels of experience with which to return to the eternal spirit and help it grow.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: In(di)go]
    #909253 - 09/26/02 07:50 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

in fact, our bodies were designed to last forever, we just don't take care of them...

*cough*
Ahem... telomeres...
Blanket statements are dangerous.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Sclorch]
    #909355 - 09/26/02 10:35 AM (18 years, 11 months ago)

You obviously haven't read "The Common Sense of Physical Immortality" by Leonard Orr.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Sclorch]
    #909955 - 09/26/02 03:35 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

it is not a blanket statement, i know what i am talking about


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: In(di)go]
    #910005 - 09/26/02 03:53 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

I'm assuming you know what telomeres are...

Yet somehow I think you don't know.


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: Sclorch]
    #910117 - 09/26/02 05:11 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

and yes, i know what telomeres are...


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Re: Unnatural = Nonexistent [Re: In(di)go]
    #910638 - 09/26/02 09:46 PM (18 years, 11 months ago)

so then, why do you think we are designed to live forever?


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