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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9037123 - 10/06/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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i didn't accuse you of it, i just saw buddhism mentioned in a thread about "religion & meaning of life".



Ahh my bad.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: norml840]
    #9037126 - 10/06/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

you sure did :laugh:

the thing with proving stuff about christianity is actually irrelevant. what should matter to us is how it affects us in reality and how it's actions impact our lives.

as far as i can honestly say the church has done nothing but driven people further away from spirituality and trapped them into a diseased, schizophrenic dichotomy of "good vs evil" bullshit, placing false morals and phony ethics on people like shackles so that they'd become predictable little drones, plagued by hypocrisy and a violent, perverted view of the world.

christianity deals with creating ghosts, lies and premium grade bullshit. in my opinion.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: norml840]
    #9037127 - 10/06/08 12:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

It's called the Bible. Now I know there's a bunch of speculation around who wrote it or where it even came from but it's just that, A big whopping cock of speculation that people that are too lazy to actually read any further choose to suck on.

It's easier to dismiss than to actually comprehend the possibility.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037133 - 10/06/08 12:47 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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It's called the Bible. Now I know there's a bunch of speculation around who wrote it or where it even came from but it's just that, A big whopping cock of speculation that people that are too lazy to actually read any further choose to suck on.

It's easier to dismiss than to actually comprehend the possibility.






it's also called fiction, bullshit and the power of imagination.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9037139 - 10/06/08 12:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

You're talking about Catholicism. If you read what is written you may find that Catholics are way off.

So a few people corrupted the message like the rest of most religions. Don't look at everyone elses view of it. Gain your own understanding.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9037147 - 10/06/08 12:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Imagination and verbal/written communication is what makes us human.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037161 - 10/06/08 12:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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You're talking about Catholicism. If you read what is written you may find that Catholics are way off.

So a few people corrupted the message like the rest of most religions. Don't look at everyone elses view of it. Gain your own understanding.




i am talking about the guy on the cross. cancer is cancer, no matter in what part of the body it has spread.

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Imagination and verbal/written communication is what makes us human.




then why don't you worship some other book?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037184 - 10/06/08 12:59 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well if you must know, I think they all have very common ground and were all trying to convey the same concept. People just take what they feel like taking away(interpretation) and push their views on others because of their own insecurity. Power, greed, and acceptance is what drives most humans. Almost every religious text teaches against every single one of those.

You think half the christians, catholics, or muslims have read in depth enough to gain their own view of the texts. Something really tells me, "Hell no!" They mostly take other peoples' word for it and go on with their lives pretending to have a firm understanding of something they've never even really thought about.

Don't blame God for man's fallacies.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037216 - 10/06/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

b0red how come you insist on knocking Christianity? You really don't sound like you have an educated opinion. Sound like one of them there southern right wings that don't listen to anything else.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037218 - 10/06/08 01:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well if they were all so similar, then why do they condem other religions to hell because of a minor detail in the way they read the bible? Basically, everyone is going to hell, because you don't believe what they do.


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"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037228 - 10/06/08 01:08 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't blame God for man's fallacies.



Who can say what man's fallacies were? They wrote the bible. So at what point would i not believe man? Before they wrote the bible, or after? How then can i tell when they started making shit up?

I don't blame god at all. Ever. But when people started making shit up, they started making god look like a dickhead.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Kada]
    #9037232 - 10/06/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Who's doing the condemning? The followers or the text? Popular opinion or the actual message?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Kada]
    #9037249 - 10/06/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well the men in the Bible say on many accounts that it is the inspired word of God. The rule of law that we hold so dear today was created by the principles found in the Bible. Do you disagree with them being 'right' or do you consider them a valuable part of the world we live in?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037252 - 10/06/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well, apparently i can only be accepted in the Christian bibles heaven through the belief in Jesus. Jews don't believe this. Are they going to hell?

I'm not even getting started on other religions. I had a Baptist preacher try to preach the devil out of me because i was baptized in a Christian church. Apparently if i didn't come to his church to do the same thing, i was going to hell. I'm was really confused at that point. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but religious beliefs have screwed me around since the day i decided to try to understand religion when i was a kid.


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"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037263 - 10/06/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

part 1 of 12.  i'll leave it up to you to watch the rest.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: DR. PRIME]
    #9037264 - 10/06/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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Well the men in the Bible say on many accounts that it is the inspired word of God. The rule of law that we hold so dear today was created by the principles found in the Bible. Do you disagree with them being 'right' or are you anarchist?



OMG that is such a christian thing to say lol. Also that is the exact answer that you were progrrammed to say in the event that someone doesn't believe your answers.

Im supposed to trust people from thousands of years ago to get somthing right? I don't even trust someone i know to get something right half the time.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: ray40cal]
    #9037291 - 10/06/08 01:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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b0red how come you insist on knocking Christianity? You really don't sound like you have an educated opinion. Sound like one of them there southern right wings that don't listen to anything else.




so what?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Kada]
    #9037293 - 10/06/08 01:20 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I believe nothing any man has ever said about god. There are no right answers. If there were right answers, then it's a pretty shitty thing to do to make someone sort through all the shit people beieve in to try to pick the one that is right. People choose their religions because it suits their lifestyles. Not because it happens to be the ONE out of thousands of years that suddenly got it right. There are no answers, and i wish people would stop making shit up and forcing it on the rest of the population. YOUR ALL GANNA BURN IN HELL UNLESS YOU BELIEVE WHAT I SAY? Wtf is that about? That is not goodness. That is wrongness.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9037296 - 10/06/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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ray40cal said:
b0red how come you insist on knocking Christianity? You really don't sound like you have an educated opinion. Sound like one of them there southern right wings that don't listen to anything else.




so what?




so you've stooped to their level, by closing your mind off to other ways.

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Kada]
    #9037313 - 10/06/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

It's definitely not just about believing in Jesus. It's recognizing the truth in the teachings and applying them.

This baptist guy was a mere man not fully grasping the word of God. He just wants to be accepted and agreed with. It's comes back to the whole separation thing. People want to feel special so they separate themselves.

Plus, Jews go by the teaching of the OLD testament. It's old for a reason. God had to make a new covenant with man to bring about their salvation. The old testament is about Israel and how they fall short of God's blessing because of their sin. Those were the people he chose to bring his word throughout the world. That doesn't make them special, if anything just a tool. And the old testament shows how God works with men. There is most definitely some fiction but it is done to expose the human heart in its rawest form.


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