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Religion, meaning of life.
    #9031865 - 10/05/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

well due to the nature of this post i have no idea where it is gonna go, people take it pretty seriously sometimes.

well anyways..

anyone care to share their ideas?

personally, i think if there is a god, it isn't a person. it is a force humans will never understand in this lifetime.

and as far as an afterlife goes. i'd imagine our "mind" keeps going after physical death, only because i'm me, and i can't say it's just a chemical illusion of my brain. i don't think there's heaven and hell the way people think. maybe an infinite feeling of "wholeness". at least that's what i'm hopin for.

i think buddhism has some better ideas than christianity to be honest.

but i can't say i follow any single religion. just ideas.

another thing is, i realize i could spend a lifetime thinking about things like this. but the answer will never come regardless. it would just bring up more questions and i wouldn't get anywhere.

the meaning of life. i think our lives are extremely short and we just need to give it our best shot, make due with what we have, enjoy the things around us. the only thing that matters is the experiences we have and what they meant to us.

money means nothing. we are born into this system that tells us to get rich and be better than the next person. i say it's time to stop competing and maybe consider working together and accepting eachother.

the things you own, end up owning you.


if you had a choice. an innocent stranger dies, or you lose all your material possessions.

which would you pick?



the answer makes you feel guilty, doesn't it?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9031909 - 10/05/08 11:15 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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i think buddhism has some better ideas than christianity to be honest.

but i can't say i follow any single religion. just ideas.






I am just curious but what do you find more appealing about Buddhism? I would personally find the four noble truths really hard to fallow. (I personally don't feel that life is full or sorrow and sadness.)

If you think it is then I guess you found what your looking for but other religions that have similar values may be worth looking into like Daoism.

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9031935 - 10/05/08 11:23 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't believe in a personal God.  The closest I get to religion is Pantheism.  I don't think spirituality has anything to do with God, for me it is about the beauty of being human and celebrating our short time together.  I just want to try to be a good person.

Alter Ipse Amicus.  A friend is another self.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: sam420]
    #9031944 - 10/05/08 11:26 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

can you explain pantheism, I have never heard of it!

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Ontheisland]
    #9031986 - 10/05/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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i think buddhism has some better ideas than christianity to be honest.

but i can't say i follow any single religion. just ideas.






I am just curious but what do you find more appealing about Buddhism? I would personally find the four noble truths really hard to fallow. (I personally don't feel that life is full or sorrow and sadness.)

If you think it is then I guess you found what your looking for but other religions that have similar values may be worth looking into like Daoism.




the idea that there is no judgement. and the idea that you should train your mind, because it is the only thing that is eternal.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Ontheisland]
    #9031989 - 10/05/08 11:35 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Well from what I gather it's just the notion of the Universe itself as a being, with us and everything else as a part of it, as one.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9031999 - 10/05/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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the idea that there is no judgement. and the idea that you should train your mind, because it is the only thing that is eternal.




Your mind is far from eternal.  People have personality changing disorders, insanity, bizarre afflictions of the brain that change who they are at the very core.  So I don't think this is true at all.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: sam420]
    #9032029 - 10/05/08 11:43 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

but those are all chemical imbalances of the brain. i'm saying there's a possibility that there is something more to the mind than the brain.

could it be possible that the brain just clouds and blocks reality. like it is just a filter. people with disorders are just being filtered differently.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9032049 - 10/05/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Fair point.

I'm not a believer in Dualism


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: sam420]
    #9032054 - 10/05/08 11:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

The point of Buddhism isn't to have your mind continuously reincarnate, the purpose is to escape from life into nirvana. I guess in a way you are training your mind to give up all attachment and desire (maybe). Buddhism essentially wants to stop the wheel of law cycle so they can slip into nirvana. Therefore, they don't want their minds to be eternal.

They don't pass judgment because its a very selfish religion where they are only concerned of extinguishing their own self, and their own karma.

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9032063 - 10/05/08 11:50 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

wow, that last question..person dying vs losing posessions... that really makes me think


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Ontheisland]
    #9032079 - 10/05/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I think God is cool. He talks about anihalating people who piss him off, which is respectable. Plus, Jesus is a badass. He mocked the faithlessnes of  jews by dying voluntarily. You can tell from reading the new testament, that Jesus got tons of pussy, but never bragged about it.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: upinthetrees]
    #9032081 - 10/05/08 11:53 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I would lose my possessions, I'm pretty confident

I don't think I could live with myself if I didn't make that choice and peace of mind is worth more than a few thousand quids worth of stuff.

I could probably buy back everything I own in about 2 years, maybe even 1 if I hardcore saved


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9032492 - 10/05/08 01:32 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Nihilism and/or panpsychism.

I'm having difficulty choosing which.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: deCypher]
    #9032549 - 10/05/08 01:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

timecube.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: anyone420]
    #9033537 - 10/05/08 05:22 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

my point of the question was mostly the idea that we were born into a system that tells us what to take value in (money) and it's imprinted into our brains because it is all around us, and always has been.

nothing wrong with money itself, it is just a means of trade. but when people lose sight of the things that are truly important, happiness and life itself (for example, working a job you hate because it pays a little better) that's when we need a new approach or belief system.

why would you spend 40 hours a week being miserable, so you can have a 3 car garage, or a hot tub installed?


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: Ontheisland]
    #9033656 - 10/05/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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(I personally don't feel that life is full or sorrow and sadness.) 




Really? I want to know your secret.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: justinsanity]
    #9033780 - 10/05/08 06:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

just watch this movie.  HERE

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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: norml840]
    #9034027 - 10/05/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

WTF NORML. All anime is the same. I want to shoot the faces off of whoever created the anime concept. They deserve to be hung high from the highest, thorniest fucking tree and their little japanese brown fucking asses need to be nuked again. Complete fucking retardation. If someone acted like that in america, they'd be civilly committed.


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Re: Religion, meaning of life. [Re: ray40cal]
    #9034047 - 10/05/08 07:06 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I used to be a Christian but not anymore. (my title under my avatar used to say "Christian Shroomer")

I realized this summer that I really don't believe in it. I was just fooling myself. It was very freeing to realize this.

I still believe in God though. The only term that I'm comfortable with describing my spiritual philosophy is "Panentheism", which is distinguished from Pantheism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panentheism


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