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Offlinelearningtofly
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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9031075 - 10/05/08 02:31 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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FeedingMyDreams said:
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upinthetrees said:
lets go, im in



Blowing shit up makes everyone hate you.


That is a cop out of not wanting to do anything IMO. By the very fact that you are going against the status quo you will be hated.

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FeedingMyDreams said:
We are an open, free market economy.


lol? I hope that's a joke, we haven't been a free market economy since at least the 1930s.

EDIT: Thomas Jefferson had a few words on the 2nd amendment...
"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."




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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: learningtofly]
    #9031084 - 10/05/08 02:37 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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learningtofly said:
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FeedingMyDreams said:
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upinthetrees said:
lets go, im in



Blowing shit up makes everyone hate you.


That is a cop out of not wanting to do anything IMO. By the very fact that you are going against the status quo you will be hated.

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FeedingMyDreams said:
We are an open, free market economy.


lol? I hope that's a joke, we haven't been a free market economy since at least the 1930s.



That's why I made this thread.  Less government power is what this is all about. 

Seriously, no one is going to believe in a cause when it consists of terrorism.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9031090 - 10/05/08 02:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

i still want to blow shit up.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: igwna]
    #9031103 - 10/05/08 02:51 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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skcorrelyt said:
i still want to blow shit up.



If it comes to this, then yes.  I'm proposing a peaceful group of armed citizens who will change the status quo.  We’ll use politics as a means of change. If we happen to be attacked when the government becomes crazy with power, we will defend ourselves.  It won't happen now or even in the near future.  But the way things are going; It will be just a matter of time.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9031173 - 10/05/08 03:56 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I like the sound of that.....
Not now or even in the near future.....But it's just a matter of time.

:smirk:
You know what's likely in the near future IMHO, Barrack Obama is elected,
he does some good things, maybe even repeals some or all of the patriot act. And does SOME genuinely good things.
Then most of the public becomes placid again.

And the cycle starts anew.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #9031302 - 10/05/08 05:26 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

When Obama gets elected, everyone will think he's the next Jesus Christ.  That's when the shit hits the fan.

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: upinthetrees]
    #9031413 - 10/05/08 06:49 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

In some movie there was a civilian militia...uhmmmmm

Bowling for Columbine!

that's the name


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9031425 - 10/05/08 06:59 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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FeedingMyDreams said:
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upinthetrees said:
lets go, im in



The only problem is that I can't think of any militia that ended well or didn't bomb a federal building. 




The Gadsden Minutemen, they had a standoff with the FBI
several years back over a video tape, no shots were fired, no
one was arrested over the incident

http://www.no-debts.com/anti-federalist/gadsden.html

unfortunately it doesnt mean they arent under a great deal of
suspicion from the FBI, you'd have to be very careful of
things you own and the locations there they're stored, for
instance iron pipe and gunpowder, neither is illegal until you
have them at the same location, then it's a conspiracy charge

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9031735 - 10/05/08 10:24 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

ok everybody, meet at my place!! then we'll...

probably get too fucked up to leave.

nvm.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9031741 - 10/05/08 10:28 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

Someone PM me when the militia is set up.

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: justinsanity]
    #9031796 - 10/05/08 10:46 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

sorry, I wont be joining your black panther party, I have my own
agenda, please dont try coming up my hill seeking support for
your feeble efforts to gain power after the collapse of
government, the start of race wars or any other even of civil
unrest as I'll be busy killing anyone within 1000 meters

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9032086 - 10/05/08 11:54 AM (15 years, 5 months ago)

dude join the militia and then youll get even more shit done. we can have different sectors, one for blowing shit up for the hell of it and the other will blow shit up only when necessary. how many members are on this site? we could do it..


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: upinthetrees]
    #9032254 - 10/05/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think there is anyway there could be any real change without some form of action.

Obviously the goal should still be to minimize civilian casualties, but a bunch of people standing around saying "WE NEED CHANGE! DOWN WITH THE GOVERNMENT" will sound like nothing more than whiny children.

Now...get a bunch of people armed with guns and bombs and walk into the federal reserve and THREATEN to blow shit up unless the government responds to you....that would probably have more effect.

Of course, the scale would have to be even much bigger than that.

Not saying that is really a good course of action....but it get people to know you mean business. :shrug:

(I hope the CIA doesn't come on here and try to bust me)


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: BrainChemistry]
    #9032394 - 10/05/08 01:14 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

the CIA is already here. if you were going to be busted, you would of been already :yesnod:


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: FeedingMyDreams]
    #9032456 - 10/05/08 01:25 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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As the 2nd amendment staes: "A militia, being necessary to the security of a free state."  Our country is turning into the opposite of a free state.  A militia is like the most patriotic thing you can do during these times.




The reason a militia used to be necessary was because the founding fathers did not want to allow standing armies.
If a conflict came up, the militia would organize and come to the rescue.  No need for a militia now, seeing as how we always have massive standing armies at all times, peace or war.

"There shall be no standing army but in time of actual war." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. Papers 1:363

"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important, but especially so at a moment when rights the most essential to our welfare have been violated." --Thomas Jefferson to -----, 1803. ME 10:365

"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." --Thomas Jefferson to Chandler Price, 1807. ME 11:160

It sucks but the 2nd amendment is totally outdated and obsolete.  Citizens needed the right to be armed because the citizens were the militia.  But citizens no longer defend our country.

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: igwna]
    #9032467 - 10/05/08 01:28 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

a guy in a bar once tried to recruit me.

he was 60y old and told me he's recruited people from the french legion other military factions already. i asked him who will we be fighting and he said his old english teacher that lives a few klicks away from his place.

he said he fought in Afghanistan in the soviet army and killed men with his bare hands and then he started crying quietly. he also asked if i am recording him with my cell phone.

these people start militias.


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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #9032520 - 10/05/08 01:41 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: upinthetrees]
    #9032850 - 10/05/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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upinthetrees said:
dude join the militia and then youll get even more shit done.




I have no need to protect anyone but me and my family, if you
can prove to me your worth then maybe I'll consider allowing
you to join me but this talk of making the boom isnt something
any of us need to discuss, not only is it illegal, it is more
often than not dangerous for you and those around you, just
remember, TOTSE is not a source of information

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: BoneMan]
    #9032903 - 10/05/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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BoneMan said:
Quote:

FeedingMyDreams said:
As the 2nd amendment staes: "A militia, being necessary to the security of a free state."  Our country is turning into the opposite of a free state.  A militia is like the most patriotic thing you can do during these times.




The reason a militia used to be necessary was because the founding fathers did not want to allow standing armies.
If a conflict came up, the militia would organize and come to the rescue.  No need for a militia now, seeing as how we always have massive standing armies at all times, peace or war.

"There shall be no standing army but in time of actual war." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. Papers 1:363




well shit, considering this and other things that Jefferson
has said I'd say there's more need now than ever before for
the organized Militia as we have had standing armies for more
than 100 years and jefferson opposed it




Quote:

"None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important, but especially so at a moment when rights the most essential to our welfare have been violated." --Thomas Jefferson to -----, 1803. ME 10:365

"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force." --Thomas Jefferson to Chandler Price, 1807. ME 11:160

It sucks but the 2nd amendment is totally outdated and obsolete.  Citizens needed the right to be armed because the citizens were the militia.  But citizens no longer defend our country.




your quotes say just the opposite of what you say, the supreme
court disagrees with you in that it's the 'right of the people
to keep and bare arms'

A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference. -Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.  - Thomas Jefferson

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. -Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Who Wants To Start A Militia? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #9033271 - 10/05/08 04:21 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

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your quotes say just the opposite of what you say, the supreme
court disagrees with you in that it's the 'right of the people
to keep and bare arms'





I didn't say that the people shouldn't have the right to keep and bare arms.  I'm just saying that originally the reason for that was so the people could organize and serve as this country's military force when needed.  So the 2nd amendment (for the reasons it was intended) is obsolete.  Its not like that anymore and baring arms is no longer necessary, except for personal protection and sport.  Which is fine by me. I don't hunt but shooting for sport is fun.  I do agree that people should have that right.

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