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The chicken or the egg?
#9029924 - 10/04/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Answer: The chicken.
OC solves another great philosophic conundrum.
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sounds like someone's fishing for a compliment
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Yea, chicken sounds good.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mofo]
#9029954 - 10/04/08 08:24 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fish vs. Roe
Roe vs. Wade
Where does it end?
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9029958 - 10/04/08 08:26 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea, chicken sounds good.
Nuggets or wings?
*sigh*
Another conundrum.
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paper or plastic?
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mofo]
#9029964 - 10/04/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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STOP! STOP!
I can only solve so many riddles!
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i could have told you chicken! you should have just PMd me lol
*nuggets for sure*
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Thanks for solving the nuggets issue. I was pacing the floor and furrowing my brow quite heavily for a moment.
Hey! Hold on thar. How do I know you are not just saying 'nuggets' to placate me?
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Actually, if you think about it scientifically, the egg must have come first since proto-chickens must have utilized the egg birthing process. Thus, the first true chicken ever to arise must have hatched from an egg.
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QuantumReality
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well you can never be toooo sure, though i think we can safely say that chicken wings are shit
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mofo]
#9030005 - 10/04/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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mofo said: Actually, if you think about it scientifically, the egg must have come first since proto-chickens must have utilized the egg birthing process. Thus, the first true chicken ever to arise must have hatched from an egg.
Yea, thats right. Eggs have been around much longer than any bird has.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030029 - 10/04/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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you could both be wrong, pay very close attention to the question, notice how he never specifically stated which chicken or egg? think about it
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030033 - 10/04/08 08:49 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Egg was first, unless you believe in Creationism I don't see how a Chicken could magically appear?
Creature X gives birth to creature Y and creature Y gives birth, and due to enough mutations, out comes a chicken.
Unless I am totally wrong, why is this question even asked? I guess because neither Creationism nor Evolution can be proven?
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030048 - 10/04/08 08:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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answer: The single celled organism that evolved into the chicken.
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everyone knows the chicken eveolved from the tauni spotted gecko
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learningtofly said: Egg was first, unless you believe in Creationism I don't see how a Chicken could magically appear?
Creature X gives birth to creature Y and creature Y gives birth, and due to enough mutations, out comes a chicken.
Unless I am totally wrong, why is this question even asked? I guess because neither Creationism nor Evolution can be proven?
amen to that.
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The chicken is the egg's way of getting more eggs.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mofo]
#9030157 - 10/04/08 09:23 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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mofo said: Actually, if you think about it scientifically, the egg must have come first since proto-chickens must have utilized the egg birthing process. Thus, the first true chicken ever to arise must have hatched from an egg.
How does one differentiate between a proto-chicken and a chicken? There has to be a continuous line of descent between the two types of organisms, and there is no clear black/white divide. It's more of a matter for fuzzy logic and probability if anything.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: deCypher]
#9030167 - 10/04/08 09:25 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its an arbitrary distinction, but its still useful and it is there.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030183 - 10/04/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, and the point is that there's no specific moment in time that you can point to and say, "thus marks the divide between proto-chicken and chicken." Therefore, there was no first "true chicken."
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Honestly?
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: deCypher]
#9030192 - 10/04/08 09:34 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ofcourse
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: deCypher]
#9030199 - 10/04/08 09:36 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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The idea of what a 'true chicken' is arbitrarily defined by us, so we can choose whenever we want to be the time of the first chicken.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030206 - 10/04/08 09:38 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, so we have unlimited freedom in choosing whenever we want to be the time of the first chicken.
We still have to make a choice, though, and as soon as we've made that choice, we've fixed the date of the first chicken--and it is this that we cannot do.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: deCypher]
#9030232 - 10/04/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought that was what we all did all the time.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030280 - 10/04/08 10:02 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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the chicken has just been slaughtered
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OrgoneConclusion
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There IS no chicken.
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Wherever I go, the chicken sees.
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If you believe in GOD the chicken came first, after all he made all animals, not all embryos.
If you believe in evolution you would believe the egg came first, because in order for some organism, or other animal to turn into a chicken it would have had to be born first.
Personaly I believe that GOD created all living things, thus believe the chicken came first.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: theshiz777]
#9030396 - 10/04/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nonsense. You can believe god (or GOD) created the universe and eggs came first.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: theshiz777]
#9030399 - 10/04/08 10:37 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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we have been swindled by the great chicken master OC "all hail the chicken master"
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030411 - 10/04/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: Nonsense. You can believe god (or GOD) created the universe and eggs came first.
As I do
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: theshiz777]
#9030420 - 10/04/08 10:43 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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theshiz777 said: in order for some organism, or other animal to turn into a chicken it would have had to be born first.
But the question now is, did it come from an egg to begin with?
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The Cypher said:
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mofo said: Actually, if you think about it scientifically, the egg must have come first since proto-chickens must have utilized the egg birthing process. Thus, the first true chicken ever to arise must have hatched from an egg.
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Penguarky Tunguin said: The chicken is the egg's way of getting more eggs.
Yeah the chicken had to come from somewhere right? An egg. And in order for the chicken to be there, there must be an egg. Eggs, actually.
So if the chicken exists out of no where, then a creationist (Be it Alien, God, or whomever) would have to exist.
I HAVE NO IDEA.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Kairo]
#9030639 - 10/04/08 11:47 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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But do you know where it originally came from? and if it did come from an egg, where did that 1st egg come from?
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Exactly! The first egg, it all loops back it all has to come from somewhere. The big bang where it exloded and created all our gaxies, had to come from somewhere right? Because if not, if that can just happen why can not a "God" exist. The highest I've come to conclusions of the Big Bang is that it came from a parrelell universe. But where did those come from?
Always question where it came from, and where that came from, and keep going until you find the answer.
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The first egg came from some species that was not a chicken.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030733 - 10/05/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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So the chicken came from non-chicken.
And non-chicken came from non-non-chicken. Two negatives = positive. So non-chicken came from chicken.
Mystery solved.
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The chicken is 23% dark matter.
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Non-chicken will come from chicken, it hasnt yet.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030747 - 10/05/08 12:23 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Evolution is 100% true and "God" is 100% true in order for this universe to happy(happen* xD), another reality or, dimension would have to reach into this one's law, why snap a finger and make it all.
P.S. There's a ton of information missing out of the Bible, especially when "the angel commanded Jon not to write down what he had seen and heard", kinda makes me think, we're about to find out :O
Edited by Kairo (10/05/08 12:24 AM)
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Kairo]
#9030752 - 10/05/08 12:25 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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P.S. There's a ton of information missing out of the Bible
Thats an understatement...
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030753 - 10/05/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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You know what else comes from chicken? Fried chicken feet
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9030775 - 10/05/08 12:37 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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P.S. There's a ton of information missing out of the Bible
Thats an understatement...
Of course it is. There's a gap between when Jesus was born until he PREACHED. That right there is info tons missing.
On another subject, smal one not to last long.
I think red tide is going to be "The water turning to blood kills 1/3 of the worlds fish" It's either that or a huge volcanic eruption like the Ring of Fire. Another thing to add is next year isn't gonna be so great and more and more the Bible does seem truthful in just that ONE book in it.
Anyway, the egg before the chicken. And the previous eggs before that weren't chicken. Right now many species are evoling in over 10 years drastically. Evolution is real, and a high power is.
They sent a satelight out, long story short it saw the same thing people have during near death experiences. I can get into that, how it did it. I'll just say.. when someone comes out of their body they are stationary, the galaxies and our universe is moving at unimaginable speeds. We're falling, going up, left and right out over nowhere. So when this satelight kept going the first thing it saw was all the light flashes, then a tunnel of light, and then just a pure wall of light o.o
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Middleman]
#9030802 - 10/05/08 12:47 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Middleman said: The chicken is 23% dark matter.
That is just theory to fill in the gaps of erroneous equations and I don't buy it.
Now turkey is another (dark) matter altogether.
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Ha I didn't think you'd like the implications of dark meat.
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Middleman said: The chicken is 23% dark matter.
That is just theory to fill in the gaps of erroneous equations and I don't buy it.
Now turkey is another (dark) matter altogether.
Please, let us work on one bird at a time...
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Both. It's not either or, it's and. As chicken are part of egg and egg are part of chicken
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: BlueCoyote]
#9031081 - 10/05/08 02:35 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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both are a government conspiracy which is actually a conspiracy created by the Matrix.
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Answer: The chicken.
But the real question is how best to cook it.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: DieCommie]
#9031587 - 10/05/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd say that the egg is the most likely answer but in all actuality, I do not know.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Boots]
#9033703 - 10/05/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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An honest man.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Icelander]
#9034608 - 10/05/08 09:03 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I suspect the chicken came before the chicken egg... but the egg came before the chicken.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: Icelander]
#9035643 - 10/06/08 02:41 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Answer: The chicken.
But the real question is how best to cook it.
The Chicken and the egg for incestuous salads.
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ArtVandaley
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Hmmm Ive been thinking a similar question but not about the chicken. What came first? the spore or the mushroom?
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: ArtVandaley]
#9035777 - 10/06/08 04:14 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Evolution? Neither chicken nor egg. Dinosaurs
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: polantis]
#9037624 - 10/06/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the correct answer is that the chicken laid itself.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mushbaby]
#9037997 - 10/06/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice.
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: mushbaby]
#9038399 - 10/06/08 06:05 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the correct answer is that the chicken laid itself.
Now that the poor chicken is single and can only pleasure itself.
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Picture if you will the dilemma of this poor solitary chicken.
Imagine a world full of creatures and none as evolved as this poor bird.
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What came first, the fig tree, or the fig wasp....? They are both very specialized and rely on each other to propogate each other's life cycle, in very specific ways....
>^;;^<
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Re: The chicken or the egg? [Re: PhanTomCat]
#9049757 - 10/08/08 07:19 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fig Wasp Newtons - mmmmm!
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