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Re: Palin speaks at higher grade level than Biden? (or not) [Re: zouden]
    #9065398 - 10/12/08 12:19 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

It's not an excellent point, it's an idiotic point, and one that dodges the point under discussion and one he knows dodges the point under discussion. Next, note his epic fail of an analogy. He compares the resumption of hostilities in Iraq with the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan! There is no parallel between the two at all other than the fact that weapons were involved in both.





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Re: Palin speaks at higher grade level than Biden? (or not) [Re: Phred]
    #9065413 - 10/12/08 12:25 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Well, they both involve the invasion of a sovereign country...


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Re: Palin speaks at higher grade level than Biden? (or not) [Re: zouden]
    #9065418 - 10/12/08 12:26 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

You missed the point entirely.  He's not "discussing the point," he's analyzing social forces.  Nothing of what he says is supposed to have a negative reflection upon that of which he speaks.  You really can't read Chomsky without keeping an open mind, and remembering that the forces and results coming from those forces are the inevitable results of those that came before.

In the case in which you cite, he uses that example to apply the same force to two separate situations to show them in motion, not to say that the events themselves were similar.


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Re: Palin speaks at higher grade level than Biden? (or not) [Re: Phred]
    #9065674 - 10/12/08 05:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Phred said:
It's not an excellent point, it's an idiotic point, and one that dodges the point under discussion and one he knows dodges the point under discussion. Next, note his epic fail of an analogy. He compares the resumption of hostilities in Iraq with the USSR's invasion of Afghanistan! There is no parallel between the two at all other than the fact that weapons were involved in both.





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Both seemed to be an illegal war, and a violation of our UN treaties (no war without UN approval except in self defense)- notably the same thing we invaded iraq for.

I don't think the US had any credible reason to belive any signifigant threat existed from Iraq.


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