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OfflineJuggles
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Alcohol proof?
    #902563 - 09/23/02 09:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Hi, I'm wondering how high a proof alcohol has to be to properly sterilize something. I'm asking because I just sterilized something with bacardi rum (40% alcohol) and now I'm doubting if that did the job or not. So if anyone can tell me I'd greatly appreciate it.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Juggles]
    #902614 - 09/23/02 09:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

just use isoprophyl.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Juggles]
    #902621 - 09/23/02 09:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Why not just use a $2 bottle of rubbing alcohol, and save the bacardi for yourself? I dont know how much alcohol is in rubbing alcohol, but it sure will sterilize!


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Juggles]
    #902626 - 09/23/02 09:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well it was the only thing in the house, and I'm lazy, I would think that lighter plus 40% alcohol would be fine.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Juggles]
    #902628 - 09/23/02 09:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I use 91%


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Juggles]
    #902644 - 09/23/02 09:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The rum may leave some sugars on the objects to sterilize. If you don't have isopropyl (3 bottles for a buck by me for the 70%, buck a bottle for the 91%) then the flaming should work fine as long as you get the metal red hot and glowing.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: StS]
    #902911 - 09/23/02 11:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

stick with the 70%, the 91% doesn't kill germs as well because there's less water and the bacteria can form that barrier thing a lot quicker.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: daussaulit]
    #902960 - 09/23/02 11:38 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Good point daussaulit. 70% is better for sterilizing. I had forgotten about that.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: StS]
    #902968 - 09/23/02 11:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I would think using rum would be a very bad idea. It would probably leave some traces of sugars as said before. Sugars would attract contams...

But if you flamed as well then it should be fine!
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[Re: StS]
    #902969 - 09/23/02 11:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: matts]
    #902972 - 09/23/02 11:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I use 70% with no problems at all.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: matts]
    #902979 - 09/23/02 11:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I do remember reading somewhere that 70% is better at sterilizing. I can't remeber why, I know it seems backwards, but if I find the info on the net, I'll let you know.


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: StS]
    #903061 - 09/24/02 12:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Here are a couple of interesting links about isopropyl....One
Two

From what I have read, isopropyl is actually a weak disinfectant. The second link does say this though..
"Ethyl or isopropyl alcohol in concentration of 70% to 90% are good general-use disinfectants. However, they evaporate fast and therefore have limited exposure time. They are less active against non-lipid viruses and ineffective against bacterial spores. Concentrations above 90% are less effective. "


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[Re: StS]
    #903086 - 09/24/02 12:11 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: iiiSENiii]
    #903269 - 09/24/02 01:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

2 Dollar Bottle of rubbing alcohol? dang...
hehe at my 99 cent store by my house, a bottle of rubbing alcohol for 33 cents


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: neophyteshroomer]
    #903441 - 09/24/02 02:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

get some glutaraldehyde.. that shit kills anything!


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: zeta]
    #904643 - 09/24/02 03:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The two links are related to sterilisation, for instruments used in surgery, where everything must be extremely sterile indeed. The reason we use alcohol is to sterilise household bacterias and germs, which im positive both the 70% and 90% alcohol is more than adequate enough to achieve


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Lost_Prophet]
    #904679 - 09/24/02 03:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, but who knows what lives in some people's households  :grin: :grin:


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #905189 - 09/24/02 06:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Has anybody used a diluted bleach solution? I haven't seen this in any teks, is bleach just a no-no for sterilization in the mycology world? Jus wonderin', Thanks. :cool:


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Re: Alcohol proof? [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #905312 - 09/24/02 07:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Bleach is great for sterilizing anything, as long as you rinse it off properly.
I use 10% bleach in a spray bottle to sterilize my work area (can't get Lysol here).



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